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Ludvig

Grow lists before master updates

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Ludvig   

I'm starting to finish painting a bunch of my nephilim and would like to try them out. 

I have a couple of lists that I'm thinking of running in an advantageous pool like headhunter with dig their graves or mark for death. List one is a lot more aggressive, the second one has more activations but less credible threats. When the strat and schemes want you to kill anyway growing shouldn't feel like a third scheme but aomething that just happens.

List two kind of lacks teeth but can single out enemy models and trigger pounces en masse. If they get to your tots you can grow their buddies with the corpse.

I'm also having trouble deciding between the pukesnake and cherub. Cards are nice but with my intended plays I think the (0) interacts might be crucial.

Suggestions?

List 1

50 SS Neverborn Crew
Lilith + 6 Pool (or 5, see below)
 - Beckon Malifaux (1)
 - Wicked Mistress (1)
 - On Wings Of Darkness (1)
Primordial Magic (2) or Cherub (3)
Barbaros (10)
 - A Thousand Faces (1)
Mature Nephilim (11)
 - A Thousand Faces (1)
Young Nephilim (6)
Young Nephilim (6)
Terror Tot (4)
Terror Tot (4)

List 2

50 SS Neverborn Crew
Lilith + 6 Pool
 - Rapid Growth (1)
 - On Wings Of Darkness (1)
 - Beckon Malifaux (1)
Primordial Magic (2) or Cherub (3)
Lilitu (7)
 - A Thousand Faces (1)
Black Blood Shaman (7)
Young Nephilim (6)
Young Nephilim (6)
Terror Tot (4)
Terror Tot (4)
Terror Tot (4)
Terror Tot (4)

List 3 (I had to try with Lucius). I'm kind of liking the pounce trap within the :+fate aura. The scribe raising the already decent defence on most nephilim and protecting them through red tape could prove more worth it than the cards from the snake.

50 SS Neverborn Crew
Lucius + 4 Pool
Primordial Magic (2)
Mr. Graves (8)
 - A Thousand Faces (1)
Lilitu (7)
 - A Thousand Faces (1)
Black Blood Shaman (7)
Young Nephilim (6)
Young Nephilim (6)
Terror Tot (4)
Terror Tot (4)
Terror Tot (4)

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Ludvig   
19 minutes ago, Phinn said:

"...before master updates."
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Well in a month everything will likely be completely different and none of the lists built before the upgrades will seem logical. No point in releasing upgrades that are worse than the old ones. I'm fully expecting some broken shit for all the masters to bring them in line with the top picks ;)

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Here's my goto grow list.

Lilith +6 pool
 - Rapid Growth (1)
 - Beckon Malifaux (1)
 - Aether/Wings/Wicked Mistress
Primordial Magic (2)
Nekima (13)
 - The True Mother (2)
 - A Thousand Faces (1)
Black Blood Shaman (7)
Young Nephilim (6)
Young Nephilim (6)
Terror Tot (4)
Terror Tot (4)

I feel like Nekima with True Mother and the BBS are pretty crucial for getting the grow list to do the best. Nekima as a source for more Terror Tots(albeit it won't be terribly common), but being able to have her kill the key pieces without sacrificing a potential mature is pretty big. And the the BBS as another source of growing Tots without requiring the Tot to make the kill, and just general support for the crew.

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Ludvig   

Just realized Lucius can get silly with a tot and some other nephilim. If you bleed the tot for soulstones while Lucius is a little bit up the field you could give fast and a walk to a couple of young nephilim or just a walk to a mature. If you have a shaman in your list you can upgrade a tot into a young neph with the corpse marker.

Tot wastes an activation moving up. Another tot goes. Lucius swaps placed with a tot and uses a soulstone to bleed it. Uses another soulstone on either a sniper attack or commanding something with a soulstone for a suit and thus kills the tot. Lucius has spent two ap but has given out 1+1 ap from commanding a minion as well as giving 2-3 walks and two fast young nephilim. The shaman upgrades the activated tot into a young. Maybe not a world-endingly powerful combo but it's a decent amount of ap gained.

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8 hours ago, Ludvig said:

Just realized Lucius can get silly with a tot and some other nephilim. If you bleed the tot for soulstones while Lucius is a little bit up the field you could give fast and a walk to a couple of young nephilim or just a walk to a mature. If you have a shaman in your list you can upgrade a tot into a young neph with the corpse marker.

Tot wastes an activation moving up. Another tot goes. Lucius swaps placed with a tot and uses a soulstone to bleed it. Uses another soulstone on either a sniper attack or commanding something with a soulstone for a suit and thus kills the tot. Lucius has spent two ap but has given out 1+1 ap from commanding a minion as well as giving 2-3 walks and two fast young nephilim. The shaman upgrades the activated tot into a young. Maybe not a world-endingly powerful combo but it's a decent amount of ap gained.

Seems pretty decent, although would probably be better to turn 2 kill it so your fast young are in a better position and you'll be able to command them forward some still with Lucius. Then you're opponent will have been less likely to be prepared for 2 fast young Nephilim. Also keeps that activation for turn 2 to give better targets for your now fast young.

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keget   

Here is a grow list that has done well.  Lots of activations, doppleganger let's you go first almost all the times you want.  Lilith makes sure Nekima has good stuff to kill...and Cherub has done very well lat in a turn to slow someone, but feel free to switch to puke 🐍.

50 SS Neverborn Crew
Lilith + 5 Pool
 - Beckon Malifaux (1)
 - On Wings Of Darkness (1)
 - Wicked Mistress (1)
Cherub (3)
Nekima (13)
 - The True Mother (2)
 - Rapid Growth (1)
Doppleganger (7)
Terror Tot (4)
Terror Tot (4)
Terror Tot (4)
Terror Tot (4)
Terror Tot (4)

 (exported from CrewFaux)

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feagaur   

My general grow list is pretty similar to No. 3 and the other two but runs like this...

Lilith - 7 pool with Beckon Malifaux and Rapid Growth

Cherub

Nekima with True Mother

Black Blood Shaman

5 X Terror Tots

 

Keep the shaman someone near the centre and have Nekima and Lilith either side with some tots chopping through people. It might not be ultra competitive but it is fun to play.

 

last game I played with this I ended up with 6 tots, 2 young and 2 mature along with Nekima, the shaman and lilith.

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