TheSpinebuster Posted July 5, 2017 Report Share Posted July 5, 2017 8 minutes ago, Aaron said: Like our other stat and Upgrade cards for Malifaux, they will not be made free online. Here's an oddball question: Will the new upgrades for the masters be included in their box sets going forward? Like if you buy a Von Schill box in 2018, it'd have those 2 upgrades included? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tris Posted July 5, 2017 Report Share Posted July 5, 2017 4 minutes ago, DocSchlock said: On Justice at the End of a Blade, it says this model gets a on all flips against the target model until the end of the turn. What does the nebulous "against" mean here? Is being attacked by the model "against" the model, so the positive applies to all flips dealing with that model? Swordfighter is incredible though - can't wait to see the rest. Why is it nebulous? every time you have an opposed duel with that model, you flip a card against it 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomoredroids Posted July 5, 2017 Report Share Posted July 5, 2017 1 minute ago, Tris said: Why is it nebulous? every time you have an opposed duel with that model, you flip a card against it Well, that's not what it says. Hence the question. I think the real question is: does this work for damage flips? Or do damage flips not count as "against" the model? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocSchlock Posted July 5, 2017 Report Share Posted July 5, 2017 4 minutes ago, Tris said: Why is it nebulous? every time you have an opposed duel with that model, you flip a card against it Because "against" isn't a clear term when we're talking about model interactions. For example, your assumption of opposed duels only - the wording of the rule doesn't support that. If Lady J could trigger flips against the model outside of a duel, the rule would modify it too due to the wording. Are all flips generated by Lady J towards the model in question against that model? EDIT: "against" probably is best interpreted as "towards the model, controlled by Lady J" here. This rule boosts her Riposte ability greatly and I'm all for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trikk Posted July 5, 2017 Report Share Posted July 5, 2017 Cover Art is the best cover art for a Malifaux book. Kudos 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Math Mathonwy Posted July 5, 2017 Report Share Posted July 5, 2017 So there's Lilith, Von Schill (though he doesn't look like he used to look), Perdita(???), Toni, Misaki, Lenny(?!?), and a bearded and grey version of McMourning(?!?). ...why does only Toni look like herself (well, and Misaki because she's wearing a veil)? And why everyone else gets Masters (maybe) except Gremlins? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retnab Posted July 5, 2017 Report Share Posted July 5, 2017 That is some gorgeous art, great cover there! Can't wait to see all of what's inside it too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyrflamme Posted July 5, 2017 Report Share Posted July 5, 2017 49 minutes ago, Math Mathonwy said: So there's Lilith, Von Schill (though he doesn't look like he used to look), Perdita(???), Toni, Misaki, Lenny(?!?), and a bearded and grey version of McMourning(?!?). ...why does only Toni look like herself (well, and Misaki because she's wearing a veil)? And why everyone else gets Masters (maybe) except Gremlins? The Masters have been going through a lot of stuff since their pictures in books 1 and 2, with the vignettes in book 4 showing how drastic it has been. The art reflects that. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnternalVoid Posted July 5, 2017 Report Share Posted July 5, 2017 I AM SO hoping that we get an Alt Ototo that looks like that art. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Loki- Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 1 hour ago, EnternalVoid said: I AM SO hoping that we get an Alt Ototo that looks like that art. Pretty much guaranteed. They don't tease new art unless there's a mini coming. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Wallace Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 The beauty of this cover is how it pulls focus onto the characters, you can see all that raw emotion and get a sense of what they're thinking (more or very, very less). 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapnBloodbeard Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 so I guess all the upgrades will come out in a new general upgrade deck then? Pity they weren't 'faction specific' upgrade decks to save money... anyway, I'm keen. Seems a fair deviation from how the updates were done in the past but I'm excited! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santaclaws01 Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 4 hours ago, -Loki- said: Pretty much guaranteed. They don't tease new art unless there's a mini coming. Well we still have yet to see hide or hair of that Alt Lazarus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyris Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 11 minutes ago, santaclaws01 said: Well we still have yet to see hide or hair of that Alt Lazarus. and alt Nekima... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Loki- Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 1 hour ago, santaclaws01 said: Well we still have yet to see hide or hair of that Alt Lazarus. But they did confirm it will be one. They're still just deciding on a release avenue. 1 hour ago, Kyris said: and alt Nekima... Ahem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyris Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 10 minutes ago, -Loki- said: Ahem. I mean, we've seen the sculpt. but haven't gotten anything since last I checked. I'm sure it's coming; but Wyrd is a small company and things like that are pretty slow going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyrflamme Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 Some alt sculpts are slated for the Gencon/Black Friday order bonuses, so they tend to get held tight to the vest until those events come around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Loki- Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 7 minutes ago, Kyris said: I mean, we've seen the sculpt. but haven't gotten anything since last I checked. I'm sure it's coming; but Wyrd is a small company and things like that are pretty slow going. But I never said anything about release dates, just that they don't tease new art for a character without having a new miniature planned. Not sure why that was jumped on because of Lazarus and Nekima just because we don't have a release date? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daysleeper Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 Question from a stupid european who can't come to the event anyway ... When is gencon gonna be? Also, will the Book and Statcards (maybe in a Arsenalbox) be availlable through the online store? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trikk Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 Gencon is mid august (17-20) and I'm 99,9% sure the book will be available during the online sale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adran Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 4 hours ago, CapnBloodbeard said: so I guess all the upgrades will come out in a new general upgrade deck then? Pity they weren't 'faction specific' upgrade decks to save money... anyway, I'm keen. Seems a fair deviation from how the updates were done in the past but I'm excited! 7 packs of 16 upgrades vs 1 pack of 90 cards. (Assuming the duel faction masters don't get 2 different upgrades per faction) I'm pretty sure I'll save money on it being 1 big pack. (I don't have a clue on actual costing of these things but shifting loyalties was $18 for 193 cards, the cheapest we've seen a card deck is $8. Buying 1 factions upgrades on print on demand would be $8, I'd guess that as a product it would be $5-6 so chances are in you need 3 or more factions you'll save money on 1 set over 3. Savings on packaging, and shelf space Plus I'm still hoping that it contains the errata'd cards from January. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Loki- Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 53 minutes ago, Daysleeper said: Question from a stupid european who can't come to the event anyway ... When is gencon gonna be? Also, will the Book and Statcards (maybe in a Arsenalbox) be availlable through the online store? Stat cards are in the book and with the models, and upgrades are in generalist upgrade decks. Arsenal decks are gone. Going by previous gencons, the book will be available in limited quantities, the generalist upgrade deck should be available, and maybe some early releases of upcoming kits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SurreyLee Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 17 hours ago, Mason said: He's always been the master of his piglet. Best Euphemism ever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santaclaws01 Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 10 hours ago, -Loki- said: But I never said anything about release dates, just that they don't tease new art for a character without having a new miniature planned. Not sure why that was jumped on because of Lazarus and Nekima just because we don't have a release date? I mean I was just taking the piss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWHSD Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 8 hours ago, -Loki- said: Stat cards are in the book and with the models, and upgrades are in generalist upgrade decks. Arsenal decks are gone. Going by previous gencons, the book will be available in limited quantities, the generalist upgrade deck should be available, and maybe some early releases of upcoming kits. How's that work out for legality of the upgrades? Are upgrades and stat cards from a book that was available briefly and in limited quantities legal for tournament play? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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