RustAndTheCity Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 I've been playing a few games with Nellie recently. She tends to like cards for a lot of things. Card control is a very powerful mechanic in this game. What ways do guild have to gain cards, make enemy discard cards, and to need less cards (ex. Positive flips)? Here are a few I have thought of. I'd love to hear more. Drawing extra cards -arcane reservoir on printing press -debt to the guild -master kill with brutal effigy Discarding enemy cards -austringer trigger -executioner kill trigger Gaining positive flips/raising stats -queeg or sidir or McCabe with promises -aura ancestral on Perdita -el mayor for defense I'd love to hear some more ideas! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4thstringer Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 The scales of justice can give cards, as can lust. Guardian gives def stance and papa gives to damage flips. Lady j can give plusses to ml attack flips when she kills things iirc. Lucius has a ml abd wp aura for some models and lawyers give to horror duels while guild sarge gives to wp duels in general. Scribe has a +1 def aura, and daschel gives guardsmen zero action focus and on sh under 10 inches. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnomezilla Posted May 1, 2017 Report Share Posted May 1, 2017 A few witch hunters have a crow trigger to force a discard 1, and exorcists the discard 2 provided they have made the target undead. Card draw is something that happens to other people, though. We have the mercenary solutions, that's most of it. Pathfinders draw 1 per turn on a kill within 6", if you have those. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludvig Posted May 1, 2017 Report Share Posted May 1, 2017 Hmm, no book so excuse the noobish question here: do pathfinders draw cards when you kill them or is it an "after" ability? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikodemus Posted May 1, 2017 Report Share Posted May 1, 2017 1 hour ago, Ludvig said: Hmm, no book so excuse the noobish question here: do pathfinders draw cards when you kill them or is it an "after" ability? "when another model is killed". 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4thstringer Posted May 1, 2017 Report Share Posted May 1, 2017 Another decent card eater are pulse attacks. I've been meaning to try Sam Hopkins' pulse to see how badly I can wreck a hand. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jernmajoren Posted May 1, 2017 Report Share Posted May 1, 2017 (edited) I have been trying to compile a personal list recently, with the various ways for card interaction Guild have. Hopefully you will be able to decipher it too. Card Draw Mechanic explanation: If + means that the mechanic have any required Suits Build-in. If - means that the mechanic does not have any required Suits Build-in. " " Are either Abilities or Conditions that enables Card Draw Card Draw Mechanic (Build-in +/-) (RB)Scales of Justice(Lady Justice)+ (RB)Perdita Ortega+ (RB)Sonnia+ (CR)Brutal Effigy+ (CR)Guild Pathfinder+ (CR)Wastrel+ "Bravado" (SL)Master Queeg- (SL)Nurse Heartsbane+ "In the name of research" (SL)Orderly+ "In the name of research" (SL)Emissary of Fate - Brutal Conflux+ (RF) The Printing Press (Nellie Cochrane)+ "Arcane Reservoir +1" (RF-UG)A Debt To The Guild - Non-Master+ Mercenary - Card Draw Mechanic (Build-in +/-) (RB)Hannah(Outcast)+ "Arcane Reservoir +1" (RB)Ronin(Outcast)+ "Seppuku" (CR)Sue(Outcast)+ "Hurt" (SL)Anna Lovelace(Resurrectionists)+ "Rush of Magic" (SL)Bloodwretch(Neverborn)+ "The Rage Builds" (CR)Big Jake(Outcast)+ "Consult the Ancestors" ------------------------------ Discard Mechanic explanation: If + it means that the mechanic have any required Suits Build-in. If - it means that the mechanic does not have any required Suits Build-in. " " Are either Abilities or Conditions applied that can force Discards. If (**) indicates some form of Assassination trigger. Discard Mechanic (Build-in +/-) / (Assassination Trigger(**)): (RB)The Judge+ "Arrest" (RB)Nino Ortega- (**) (RB)Witchling Stalker- (RB)Guild Austringer- (RB)Guild Guard+ "Arrest" (RB)Executioner- (**) (RB-UG)Counterspell Aura - Sonnia+ "Grounded" (CR)Exorcist- (**Undead Only)/"Pinned" (CR)Witchling Handler- (CR-UG)Surprisingly Loyal - Lucius ===> (CR)Mr. Tannen (Neverborn / Ten Thunders)+ "Cooler" (CR-UG)Arcanist Assets - C. Hoffman ===> (RB)Howard Langston (Arcanists)- (**) (SL)Master Queeg- (SL)Dr. Grimwell- (SL)Nurse Heartsbane- (SL)Greed+ "Take What Is Yours" (RF)Allison Dade- ""How Long Have You Been In Crowe's Pocket?"" (RF)Field Reporter- ""Under Scrutiny"" (RF)Witchling Thrall+ Mercenary - Discard Mechanic (Build-in +/-) / (Assassination Trigger(**)): (RB)Hans (Outcast)+ "To the Highest Bidder" (CR)McTavish (Gremlin)- "Swallow hole" (**) (CR)Ama No Zako (Outcast/Ten Thunders)- (**) (Ht 1 or Paralyzed Only) (SL)Sloth (Resurrectionists)+ "Lazy Sunday" (SL)Envy (Arcanists)- "Obsessed" (SL)Wrath (Neverborn)+ "Hellhound On My Trail" (SL)Pride (Outcast)- "Bad Role Model" / "This Song Is All About You" / "Solo" (SL)Gluttony (Gremlins)+ "Come On In My Kitchen" (SL)Lust (Ten Thunders)+ "Looking For a Soul to Steal" / "Dream Maker" ----------------------------- Edited May 2, 2017 by Jernmajoren Added Sue and Big Jake; Added Hannah, Ronin and Hans 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadaverousbirth Posted May 1, 2017 Report Share Posted May 1, 2017 Sue and Big Jake are both Mercs and hurt themselves to draw cards. I haven't tried it yet but those two plus Hannah will make for some great hand control. I unintentially destroyed an opponent's hand with Austringer's Mask trigger with a couple Thralls beating people up. Good times. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticPangolin Posted May 2, 2017 Report Share Posted May 2, 2017 Lucius can hire in Mr. Tannen using the Surprisingly Loyal upgrade, whose Cooler ability forces enemies within 6 to discard a card in order to cheat. Edit: OOPS, reading not good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jernmajoren Posted May 2, 2017 Report Share Posted May 2, 2017 Added some color coding to my earlier list, as well as some models mentioned by others. Hope this will make it easier to read Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(Sarcasm) Posted August 9, 2017 Report Share Posted August 9, 2017 On 5/2/2017 at 7:12 AM, Jernmajoren said: Card Draw Mechanic (Build-in +/-) (RB)Sonnia+ ----------------------------- Would you mind clarifying which ability allows Sonnia to draw cards please? (also not sure what RB means here) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adran Posted August 9, 2017 Report Share Posted August 9, 2017 5 minutes ago, (Sarcasm) said: Would you mind clarifying which ability allows Sonnia to draw cards please? (also not sure what RB means here) Her sword has a trigger that lets her draw cards based on the number of Rams in her duel total, with 1 built in (I think RB is the rule book, he has said which book the model came from). So with a Ram card and a stone she can draw 3 cards from 1 AP. Honestly, I think its one of the best triggers in the game. If only Sonnia could survive in combat for a bit. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PanzerHarris Posted August 9, 2017 Report Share Posted August 9, 2017 16 minutes ago, Adran said: Her sword has a trigger that lets her draw cards based on the number of Rams in her duel total, with 1 built in (I think RB is the rule book, he has said which book the model came from). So with a Ram card and a stone she can draw 3 cards from 1 AP. Honestly, I think its one of the best triggers in the game. If only Sonnia could survive in combat for a bit. Badge of Office says hello. With Nellie in particular, I've started taking Bloodwretches as mercenaries. Those things are brutal if you can give them Fast, and Nellie with Delegation happens to be very good at giving out Fast. If a Bloodwretch does its Rage Builds action and then charges in, it attacks at positive flips, has a 3/4/6 track, and every time it damages you draw 2 cards then discard 1. When I was particularly card starved I sent one in against the Printing Press - with the Press' Armour 2 and being able to ensure weak damage, the Press took 2 damage total and I got to cycle cards. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adran Posted August 9, 2017 Report Share Posted August 9, 2017 8 minutes ago, PanzerHarris said: Badge of Office says hello. Give her Frank, and the badge she does pretty well in combat, with her sword drawing cards and healing her, and then inferno to clear away the chaff. But she still can't stand with the big girls. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jernmajoren Posted August 9, 2017 Report Share Posted August 9, 2017 1 hour ago, (Sarcasm) said: Would you mind clarifying which ability allows Sonnia to draw cards please? (also not sure what RB means here) 1 hour ago, Adran said: Her sword has a trigger that lets her draw cards based on the number of Rams in her duel total, with 1 built in (I think RB is the rule book, he has said which book the model came from). So with a Ram card and a stone she can draw 3 cards from 1 AP. Honestly, I think its one of the best triggers in the game. If only Sonnia could survive in combat for a bit. This 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludvig Posted August 9, 2017 Report Share Posted August 9, 2017 1 hour ago, Adran said: Her sword has a trigger that lets her draw cards based on the number of Rams in her duel total, with 1 built in (I think RB is the rule book, he has said which book the model came from). So with a Ram card and a stone she can draw 3 cards from 1 AP. Honestly, I think its one of the best triggers in the game. If only Sonnia could survive in combat for a bit. It doesn't specify enemy model so if you brought her totem and do weak damage you can ping it for a single point of damage per hit to set up some nice card draw. You could also hit anything with armor 1 like a watcher that you might have in your crew anyway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4thstringer Posted August 9, 2017 Report Share Posted August 9, 2017 1 hour ago, Ludvig said: It doesn't specify enemy model so if you brought her totem and do weak damage you can ping it for a single point of damage per hit to set up some nice card draw. You could also hit anything with armor 1 like a watcher that you might have in your crew anyway. If you swing at lust, you could use her defensive trigger to also draw cards. (especially if you used a guardian on lust to get the tomes). The damage would be more of an issue though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4thstringer Posted August 9, 2017 Report Share Posted August 9, 2017 One card engine I have used is use a guardian to put lust at plus flips, and then attack it repeatedly with a sanctioned spellcaster's close up attack. The SS is doing min 1 to lust, and charging up its soulburst, while lust is getting you cards. I haven't tried it with Nellie, now I will have to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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