theshepherd Posted March 6, 2017 Report Share Posted March 6, 2017 I've recently switched from Ressers to Arcanists kicking off my change with 'tina. Thought I plug a post here where I give a quick run down of what I've picked up so far http://abnormalifaux.blogspot.co.uk/2017/03/do-you-wanna-build-snow-witch.html There are a few tournament reports and painting post further back on the blog as well covering my Arc'17 progress if people are interested too. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patzer Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 Great post! Looking forward to read about your progress. What do you think about Seize the Day? I think it seems like really neat training wheels, but there is probably more power in running Raspy with Imbued Energies. However, that requires way more great positioning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theshepherd Posted March 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 @Patzer Cheers. I like seize as I often over extend myself. Not tried her with imbued energies yet but I'll give it a try see how it holds up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevenThirtySeven Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 Welcome to the good(?) guys! Look forward to following. Quick question, you mentioned that stoning for a mask repeat trigger after focus is better than 2 normal attacks. In certain situations I definitely agree. But I notice that you don't usually take Shattered Mirror, instead taking Armor of December. Without Shattered Mirror, Raspy can't declare triggers on any of her ice mirror attacks. Do you usually get her close enough to the action to not need to Ice mirror much? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theshepherd Posted March 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 I don't tend to use ice mirror must just due to the drop in Ca value means I need to throw a higher card. 12" range I've found to be enough when snowstorm can carry her around. Ice mirror I do like for throwing out the ice pillars though. Nice to shut off lanes early and the drop in Ca doesn't really matter there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFOmega Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 Shattered heart gets rid of the Ca penalty of Ice Mirror, unless you mean for doing the triggered attack. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theshepherd Posted March 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 True, shows how little I used it forgot the -2 was just to trigger attacks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treehouse Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 Arcane Emissary: You cant't take the 4/4/5 relentles charge attack and folllow it up with another one as the push is not optional. Nothing prevents you from doing a normal attack first and than relentless charge. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theshepherd Posted March 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 Push is a "may" so you don't have to do it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treehouse Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 That's what I get for reading Pullmyfinger and not bothering to read the card thoroughly. Apolpgies. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theshepherd Posted March 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 @Treehouse we've all done it. To be fair I had to double check when you said it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patzer Posted March 10, 2017 Report Share Posted March 10, 2017 @theshepherd. Do you get a lot out of the emissary? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theshepherd Posted March 10, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2017 His main job is to look scary but I think he's solid with SnowStorm's place he can get off some decent sneaky charges and gives another ice mirror to bounce through. there are probably better models for the job but he's definitely been fun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetaphoricDragn Posted March 10, 2017 Report Share Posted March 10, 2017 He is more all around useful than Ice Golem in that points range. But with scheming so much more highly valued in GG17 I sometimes find it hard to squeeze him in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeJones Posted March 11, 2017 Report Share Posted March 11, 2017 I find that I can fit either Snow Storm or the Emissary into my Raspy crews, but not both, and I find Snow Storm more useful for my play style, so it's tough for me to fit the Emissary in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theshepherd Posted March 11, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2017 I find emissary and snowstorm work as a decent combo so it's not really one of t'other. the place and pushes from snowstorm means that the single turn range of emissary is huge and while he's sitting in the middle of opposing crew you have time to get the rest of your crew in position. but probably more to do with how I play than solid tactics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetaphoricDragn Posted March 11, 2017 Report Share Posted March 11, 2017 I do very much like the combination of both Snow Storm and Emissary. However, I usually find myself reaching for Blessed instead. Leap is just so incredibly useful. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theshepherd Posted March 11, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2017 Not tried the blessed yet I'll have to give it a try Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retnab Posted March 11, 2017 Report Share Posted March 11, 2017 I have tried and enjoyed the Snow Storm / Emissary combo, but it is a huge chunk of your points so I understand anyone who is a bit hesitant about it. I'm actually not much of a fan of the Blessed, since its more restrictive in who it wants to be attacking (non-Armored, non-Construct enemies). I've tried him in lists where I've really needed that one specific model dead above everything else, but because it has Armor +1 its min damage of 2 is not going far. While the Emissary also has a min damage 2 attack, on the charge you can also use its min damage 4 attack and the guaranteed 2 damage (0) helps a lot as well when you don't need its 3" push. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patzer Posted March 12, 2017 Report Share Posted March 12, 2017 On 2017-03-10 at 6:53 PM, theshepherd said: His main job is to look scary but I think he's solid with SnowStorm's place he can get off some decent sneaky charges and gives another ice mirror to bounce through. there are probably better models for the job but he's definitely been fun Storm placing it to get into charge position seems rather strong, but I dont know if it is better than Myranda with Imbued Energies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetaphoricDragn Posted March 13, 2017 Report Share Posted March 13, 2017 On 3/11/2017 at 3:08 PM, retnab said: I have tried and enjoyed the Snow Storm / Emissary combo, but it is a huge chunk of your points so I understand anyone who is a bit hesitant about it. I'm actually not much of a fan of the Blessed, since its more restrictive in who it wants to be attacking (non-Armored, non-Construct enemies). I've tried him in lists where I've really needed that one specific model dead above everything else, but because it has Armor +1 its min damage of 2 is not going far. While the Emissary also has a min damage 2 attack, on the charge you can also use its min damage 4 attack and the guaranteed 2 damage (0) helps a lot as well when you don't need its 3" push. I use Blessed for schemes primarily, attacking secondarily. Leap to get into position with two AP left is huge to me for that, and after scheme running she is completely competent in combat, and good at eating enemy scheme runners as well. the "Interceptor" position that people have been talking about lately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFOmega Posted March 13, 2017 Report Share Posted March 13, 2017 33 minutes ago, MetaphoricDragn said: I use Blessed for schemes primarily, attacking secondarily. Leap to get into position with two AP left is huge to me for that, and after scheme running she is completely competent in combat, and good at eating enemy scheme runners as well. the "Interceptor" position that people have been talking about lately. Do you use Ice Dancers at all? They seem like they would fulfill the interceptor position for cheaper, and can also drop markers after attacking enemy scheme runners. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetaphoricDragn Posted March 13, 2017 Report Share Posted March 13, 2017 21 minutes ago, BFOmega said: Do you use Ice Dancers at all? They seem like they would fulfill the interceptor position for cheaper, and can also drop markers after attacking enemy scheme runners. Ice Dancers are newer so I don't have as many games with them under my belt like I do Blessed, but you are right, they are absolutely lovely models. I also play neverborn and sillurids, so I have a special fondness for leap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patzer Posted March 14, 2017 Report Share Posted March 14, 2017 12 hours ago, BFOmega said: Do you use Ice Dancers at all? They seem like they would fulfill the interceptor position for cheaper, and can also drop markers after attacking enemy scheme runners. I have tried the Ice Dancers, and I think they are ok! Butterfly Jump isn't as taxing with all the card draws from Imbued Energies/Surge, and it can be a quite powerful defensive mechanism. They hit with quite a punch for a 6ss model who got a lot else going for it. More than capable of killing models in the 3-6ss range (if they don't have Armor). Overall they have good and overlapping abilities that gives you options. For instance, instead of doing a disengaging strike they can swipe at an enemy with their Mask trigger to push away, then walk once, and push again. That is a swipe with an ok damage track and 10" movement (if you got tomes for their (0) they can on top of all that throw down a scheme-marker even while engaged too). On 2017-03-11 at 7:37 PM, theshepherd said: Not tried the blessed yet I'll have to give it a try You mean, I will give Myranda a try! Myranda is fantastic with Raspy and its really nice to have the ability to tailor what beast the situation calls for. I tend to mostly take the Ceberus due to its offensive prowess, but Blessed has a safer leap and is probably better going against certain scheme-runners. But setting up a Cerberus on turn two/three while getting an extra activation from Myranda, who can charge something or run a scheme, and lets you draw four extra cards is very powerful. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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