Ludvig Posted February 18, 2017 Report Share Posted February 18, 2017 28 minutes ago, Erik1978 said: But tournaments were dominated because of Lenny or all the others who got Cuddled? I didn't say you win everything without effort by including them but they seem rather underpriced compared to other 6 SS models. The exact same guild list with Francisco, Papa Loco and double austringers won major tournaments three years in a row. The third year (fall 2016) the lead designer of the game was watching the match. Do you think it's a coincidence those moddles got changed? Regarding Waldgeist survivability: Flesh constructs have 13 WDs and HTW for 6ss and can straight up eat even a master if you have paralyzed it with a nurse and accomplice into it. They still hardly make lists. Depleted have 8 wds, htw and htk for 4 ss. The thing is that Waldgeists aren't a problem because they hardly make neverborn lists because other options are percieved as better. As long as they aren't percieved as brokenly good they won't get errata. Austringers had an ability that was percieved as broken because it's almost impossible to do anything against it. People have a hard time accepting that you will hit their models even for low damage since it's almost impossible to prevent and that leaves a bad taste. I don't think austringers were errata'd because they were too good but because they left a bad taste in people's mouths. It's really hard to compare options between factions and even within them, it all comes down to perceptions. Had guild had some other OP broken shit at 6 or 7 ss that made people not take austringers then austringers would have made it without errata. Any tournament list half worth its salt should also bring several options to deal with armour or you're toast against 90% of competitive lists so 'geists don't pose a problem for tournament players. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik1978 Posted February 19, 2017 Report Share Posted February 19, 2017 Thanks, Ludvig. I will have to remember something vs armor in my next tournament. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santaclaws01 Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 On 2/18/2017 at 10:36 AM, Ludvig said: The exact same guild list with Francisco, Papa Loco and double austringers won major tournaments three years in a row. The third year (fall 2016) the lead designer of the game was watching the match. Do you think it's a coincidence those moddles got changed? Regarding Waldgeist survivability: Flesh constructs have 13 WDs and HTW for 6ss and can straight up eat even a master if you have paralyzed it with a nurse and accomplice into it. They still hardly make lists. Depleted have 8 wds, htw and htk for 4 ss. The thing is that Waldgeists aren't a problem because they hardly make neverborn lists because other options are percieved as better. As long as they aren't percieved as brokenly good they won't get errata. Austringers had an ability that was percieved as broken because it's almost impossible to do anything against it. People have a hard time accepting that you will hit their models even for low damage since it's almost impossible to prevent and that leaves a bad taste. I don't think austringers were errata'd because they were too good but because they left a bad taste in people's mouths. It's really hard to compare options between factions and even within them, it all comes down to perceptions. Had guild had some other OP broken shit at 6 or 7 ss that made people not take austringers then austringers would have made it without errata. Any tournament list half worth its salt should also bring several options to deal with armour or you're toast against 90% of competitive lists so 'geists don't pose a problem for tournament players. Austrigers were also likely changed in an effort to help Lucius without making the combo too strong. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluepanther Posted March 21, 2017 Report Share Posted March 21, 2017 @Aaron If I were to trade in Guilders for a Vintage Misaki, would I get an errata'd vintage card? *wispers* Mr. Cooper... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
necroon Posted March 24, 2017 Report Share Posted March 24, 2017 On 3/20/2017 at 10:32 PM, bluepanther said: @Aaron If I were to trade in Guilders for a Vintage Misaki, would I get an errata'd vintage card? Also curious. I have some guilders set aside and am wondering if I should hold off for now or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myyrä Posted March 25, 2017 Report Share Posted March 25, 2017 On 21.3.2017 at 4:32 AM, bluepanther said: @Aaron If I were to trade in Guilders for a Vintage Misaki, would I get an errata'd vintage card? *wispers* Mr. Cooper... I sure didn't when I received Vintage Misaki this week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
necroon Posted March 26, 2017 Report Share Posted March 26, 2017 17 hours ago, Myyrä said: I sure didn't when I received Vintage Misaki this week. That's no good. Sorry, @Myyrä. Thanks for the heads up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trample Posted March 27, 2017 Report Share Posted March 27, 2017 On 3/25/2017 at 5:08 AM, Myyrä said: I sure didn't when I received Vintage Misaki this week. That stinks. I hoping to pick one of these up as well and would really like the right card! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirage78 Posted September 6, 2017 Report Share Posted September 6, 2017 On 5.1.2017 at 8:23 PM, Aaron said: I've updated: SE Tara SE Nothing Beast SE Francisco Mr Cooper Hanged Eric Hanged Nathan Miss Terious They are not yet available, as it takes some time on Wargame Vault's side. As far as I can see, there's nothing else on the site to update. Sorry if I missed an update, but are there any news when these cards will be available? The search-function on Wargame Vault displays cards like, for example, Mr Cooper or Carver (Killjoy), but when I click on them I always get the notice that these cards are not available. I haven't bought the GC 2017 cards or any errata cards yet, because the shipping costs to my country are rather high... so I keep waiting to be able to order all the cards I want in one go (although I might as well skip GC 2017 now and wait for GC 2018 ^^) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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