Da Git Posted December 29, 2016 Report Share Posted December 29, 2016 Has the Gaining Grounds 2017 document been posted? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SurreyLee Posted December 29, 2016 Report Share Posted December 29, 2016 2 minutes ago, Da Git said: Has the Gaining Grounds 2017 document been posted? and if not, when can we expect it to drop....i'm excited to see what new fun games we will have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadaverousbirth Posted December 29, 2016 Report Share Posted December 29, 2016 26 minutes ago, SurreyLee said: and if not, when can we expect it to drop....i'm excited to see what new fun games we will have. Probably in 2017. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Git Posted December 29, 2016 Report Share Posted December 29, 2016 12 minutes ago, Cadaverousbirth said: Probably in 2017. Whilst incredibly likely... We got the January 2017 Errata came in December 2016, so was just wondering if it were out yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fazza92 Posted December 29, 2016 Report Share Posted December 29, 2016 I think that now Colette has the bad/stupid version of Obey... Ok fix it once per model,but increase casting to 8 o down the Wp to 10/12... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwork_Fish Posted December 29, 2016 Report Share Posted December 29, 2016 18 minutes ago, Fazza92 said: I think that now Colette has the bad/stupid version of Obey... Ok fix it once per model,but increase casting to 8 o down the Wp to 10/12... Except she can still use it to harvest cards with the Surge trigger. It's hardly a costly action to take. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fazza92 Posted December 29, 2016 Report Share Posted December 29, 2016 Yeah,but it require a 6 of tome... yes,you can use artificial Ss for choose tome,but the artificial Ss is better to summon dove or to add mask in a duel... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phinn Posted December 29, 2016 Report Share Posted December 29, 2016 10 minutes ago, Fazza92 said: Yeah,but it require a 6 of tome... yes,you can use artificial Ss for choose tome,but the artificial Ss is better to summon dove or to add mask in a duel... The is already a part of her stat though - Ca 7 . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fazza92 Posted December 29, 2016 Report Share Posted December 29, 2016 31 minutes ago, Phinn said: The is already a part of her stat though - Ca 7 . Surge Require Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtleclub13 Posted December 29, 2016 Report Share Posted December 29, 2016 When do we get the new cards and where? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phinn Posted December 29, 2016 Report Share Posted December 29, 2016 5 minutes ago, Fazza92 said: Surge Require Oh, sorry, didn't realize that you were talking about Surge Trigger, I thought you were talking about Prompt as such needing a . My bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelich Posted December 29, 2016 Report Share Posted December 29, 2016 36 minutes ago, turtleclub13 said: When do we get the new cards and where? on http://www.wargamevault.com/browse/pub/5162/Wyrd-Miniatures?filters=0_0_0_44301 if you want the real card, or from the pdf linked in the OP if you just want a print out. When... when they get "prepped for print"... whatever that means... but apparently wargamevault already has the files. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadaverousbirth Posted December 29, 2016 Report Share Posted December 29, 2016 8 minutes ago, 7thSquirrel said: on http://www.wargamevault.com/browse/pub/5162/Wyrd-Miniatures?filters=0_0_0_44301 if you want the real card, or from the pdf linked in the OP if you just want a print out. When... when they get "prepped for print"... whatever that means... but apparently wargamevault already has the files. Everyone go to "newest titles" looks like GG2017 and the Errata cards are available now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadaverousbirth Posted December 29, 2016 Report Share Posted December 29, 2016 Well, those "new" cards don't show the updates on their front in the preview. I is the confuse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucidicide Posted December 29, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2016 2 minutes ago, Cadaverousbirth said: Well, those "new" cards don't show the updates on their front in the preview. I is the confuse I didn't update the preview image yet. Priorities and all that. I did update the descriptions, though. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadaverousbirth Posted December 29, 2016 Report Share Posted December 29, 2016 *cracks whip* fix the Internet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaled Posted December 30, 2016 Report Share Posted December 30, 2016 @AaronIt looks like the card for Death Marshal C has been missed - his description doesn't mention the errata on Wargame Vault. Think I'll wait until the cards for Miss Terious and Nightmare Tara & Nothing Beast are updated before ordering so I can get everything I need in one go... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucidicide Posted December 30, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2016 Going by the file logs, it was updated, so I just updated the description. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDAntoine Posted December 30, 2016 Report Share Posted December 30, 2016 5 hours ago, Kaled said: @Aaron It looks like the card for Death Marshal C has been missed - his description doesn't mention the errata on Wargame Vault. Maby its on its way to become a Recruiter or Lone Marshal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jude Posted December 30, 2016 Report Share Posted December 30, 2016 Just read through all of this, I like the changes and the twice a year approach. @Aaron What about making Apprentice Wesley dual faction? It feels like it was an oversight back in the day, but if there is a real reason to keep him out of Ten Thunders without the upgrade I'm curious to know what it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluepanther Posted December 31, 2016 Report Share Posted December 31, 2016 The cards have been updated at Wargame Vault but I was curious about Colette before I place an order. Do we have an estimated time frame? Like a week, a month, or longer? Only curious because of the 10 card minimum order so if I order now I won't have 10 cards worth I need when that fix happens. @Aaron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucidicide Posted December 31, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2016 Curious about Colette? I don't understand the question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluepanther Posted December 31, 2016 Report Share Posted December 31, 2016 38 minutes ago, Aaron said: Curious about Colette? I don't understand the question. Sorry, that originally said the special edition "Mr Cooper" card then I changed it after I read that it would be later. So just curious as to how much later special edition cards would be before updated on war-game vault. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark Posted January 1, 2017 Report Share Posted January 1, 2017 Well, I think I should copy-past my post again. Nothing beast I want to mention that the Beast is already a very solid model, and you want to give him the second upgrade and the ability to use soulstones? Isn't it to much? I tried to play two games with new nothing beast and it's overpowered now, even my Perdita can't run through his Df + prevent flips + 0ss upgrade. Whose bright idea was to give him "henchman"? Phiona Gage She needs the ” foundry” characteristic ) Actually before I saw her stat card I was pretty sure that she is the “foundry”. It’s about the lore)Austringer It’s not quite an understandable cuddle, because in my experience they are most commonly used for «delivering orders» or two shots. Shot with focus was to compensate their poor Wk. In my opinion, if you take away this ability, then you have to increase Wk to 5 (like somebody said in this topic before). And last but not the least – the Lady Justice. After Tony I TOTALLY don't understand why she isn't buffed. She NEEDS the BUFFS! Look at her. She is the ugly duckling in the family of the Guild (and in the whole Malifaux family of close-combat masters). In accordance to the lore she is the one of the most interesting masters, and one of the most important ones in the story of Malifaux. One of reasons I love Malifaux is matching game mechanics and the background. In all the other masters I see it. When you play Ortegas – you feel that this is FAMILY, all models have synergy, all have «Shrug off» against the Neverborns and Perdita has pretty strong upgrades against the most common threats from the Neverborns. The Sonnia and witch hunters are really good against the wizards and have synergy through burning (Inquisition theme of background and mechanics – is awesome!). Hoffman is grumpy and more often lonely on the battlefield, but does wonders with their shiny constructs (and it’s perfectly like in the Lore!!). All of them have reflection of the lore in the game mechanics and powerful tricks. Even McMouring – he is poisoning and dissecting all his enemies, as the true coroner should do. And Lady J. She has the monstrous damage aaaaaaand. That’s all. She has 5 Wk and 5 Df. Oh and yes – the “Diffensive trigger”. It’s a real mockery. The trigger which activates only with and only when you WIN the MI duel. …. Win a Df duel. With . With 5 Df. You know how often it happens? I know. One-two times in 3-4 games. Extremely cool and useful. When somebody hits LJ in MI it means that it happens on purpose to kill her, and usually it’s somebody with 7MI. And you are with bare 5Df. All her SS usually goes to prevent and protect flips. You have no free SS to add suit for trigger, it will be a miracle if you just win the duel! Аbout the shooting, I won't even talk. Now about killing the undead – the main task and the mission of the Head of Death Marshals. She has the ability to remove markers and conditions, has nice pulse attack from upgrade (on the result she can’t affect, because its simple duel) aaaaaand that’s all. Yes she can crush almost any model. Except for models with Hard to Kill (for killing them LJ spends 2-3 AP). For simple undead minion which she is supposed to kill easily she looses the whole activation! You can remember about an upgrade for additional MI attack for triggers? But it require the MASKS, but they’re not always in hand and do you remember for what purpose LJ uses her soulstones? Yeap. Besides, it’s Limited, and for a bare model I will prefer the Badge of Office. About the incorporeal, I won't even start. So we have a master who potentially can kill anyone, except the … UNDEADS! Hurray! The Exorcist are much more fit to the place of Head of Death Marshals – he has all that Lady J needs. Ignoring Hard to kill and incorporeal, tactical (0) to give undead characteristic to the models and trigger for insta-kill spirits. And even hard to wound. Why is the enforser the best fighter with the undead than powerful master? I think all her problems can be fixed with couple of upgrades like sisters Mark of Shez'uul (ignoring armor, HtW, HtK, incorporeal for MI attacks) and something to push her in any direction or action for nimble maybe (it will solve her problem with mobility and stucking in engage). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tris Posted January 1, 2017 Report Share Posted January 1, 2017 25 minutes ago, Stark said: Nothing beast I want to mention that the Beast is already a very solid model, and you want to give him the second upgrade and the ability to use soulstones? Isn't it to much? I tried to play two games with new nothing beast and it's overpowered now, even my Perdita can't run through his Df + prevent flips + 0ss upgrade. Whose bright idea was to give him "henchman"? -> so, your Perdita can`t hit him with df 3 or 4, early in turn? Phiona Gage She needs the ” foundry” characteristic ) Actually before I saw her stat card I was pretty sure that she is the “foundry”. It’s about the lore) -> did you even read her lore? Why should she fight ever again for the Arcanists?Austringer It’s not quite an understandable cuddle, because in my experience they are most commonly used for «delivering orders» or two shots. Shot with focus was to compensate their poor Wk. In my opinion, if you take away this ability, then you have to increase Wk to 5 (like somebody said in this topic before). ->if they where mostly used for delivering orders, then you seem to be blissfully unaffected by the cuddle, so why the fuss? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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