Bumpasses Posted October 3, 2015 Report Share Posted October 3, 2015 (edited) Mornin old chaps,Hope this is a proper place for this. Why was the crew creator taken down with no alternative?Why not leave it up until the new one was finished?Is there some alternative and current crew creator out there? (Pen or calc = nogo)I can't seem to find anything relevant. Thank youAnd good day ~B Edited October 3, 2015 by Bumpasses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durza Posted October 3, 2015 Report Share Posted October 3, 2015 Pretty sure it didn't work properly with the new site. I think Wyrd said they were working on it but that was a while ago, it might have just slipped down on their to do list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayne Posted October 4, 2015 Report Share Posted October 4, 2015 It didn't work and it didn't have the Wave 3 releases on as far as I know. Leaving it up would look unprofessional. As for why it's not done? Wyrd aren't programmers so would have to contract this out and that's a whole load of work in itself.Personally, I think they made the right call to remove it when they did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parintachin Posted October 4, 2015 Report Share Posted October 4, 2015 It worked fine, and was really neat. I'm very sad to see it go, and would be even sadder to see it not come back.Very tempted to offer my services as a coder to make it work .. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patzer Posted October 4, 2015 Report Share Posted October 4, 2015 The Breach mobile AP have a crew creator. No wave 3 stuff yet, but easy to just "proxy" the pay for a model though. Definitely worth a look. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirial Posted October 4, 2015 Report Share Posted October 4, 2015 Personally, I think they made the right call to remove it when they did.Can't disagree strong enough. Having a free crew creator is a very good thing for a company to have. Looks welcoming. If it's not working perfectly or doesn't have all the stuff in it, put a disclaimer up front and leave it up. In my opinion, this should be really high on their schedule.The Breach mobile AP have a crew creator. No wave 3 stuff yet, but easy to just "proxy" the pay for a model though. Definitely worth a look. That's what I use too. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToddTen Posted October 4, 2015 Report Share Posted October 4, 2015 The Breach mobile AP have a crew creator. No wave 3 stuff yet, but easy to just "proxy" the pay for a model though. Definitely worth a look. The Breach is not available any longer for Apple devices though. However the creator is working on aa version 2.0 that will be released (hhopefully) soon. Due to the way Apple's ap store works it will be available for Android sooner than Apple but it is coming. There is a running thread in this forum sub-section dealing with this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CrouchingMoose Posted October 4, 2015 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 4, 2015 I wouldn't worry about this being a problem to much longer...I'm currently rewriting the Crew Creator and should be finished with all of the logic later today. After that, all I have to do is finish getting all of the model information in and then I'll be handing it all off to Wyrd so that they can style it and put it up. There were issues with the old version where as new models were potentially causing the tool to become bloated and slow.With the Shifting Loyalties release, since each model that can take upgrades needed a separate definition for each faction it could be taken in (every merc was defined 7 times for every combination of upgrades it could take. On top of that every model that got a different upgrade depending on who the leader was also required duplicate definitions for each combination. Essentially, with the old tool, book 3 added maybe 5-6 models per faction but 80+ model definitions would have needed to be added to data file that it ran off of. With this new system I've set up, it builds the hire lists organically based on model characteristics such as station and types. As I said, I'm finishing up the tool as I type this, but I would like to know if anyone knows of a place where I can upload it as a website so that people can start testing it. This is currently what I want to get done before I start trying to get The Breach application back online. I'm also looking to add several new changes so that it is easier for me to push updates for model fixes, so while the app will be further down the road, rest assured it will be coming back. 22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetaphoricDragn Posted October 4, 2015 Report Share Posted October 4, 2015 I wouldn't worry about this being a problem to much longer...I'm currently rewriting the Crew Creator and should be finished with all of the logic later today. After that, all I have to do is finish getting all of the model information in and then I'll be handing it all off to Wyrd so that they can style it and put it up. There were issues with the old version where as new models were potentially causing the tool to become bloated and slow.With the Shifting Loyalties release, since each model that can take upgrades needed a separate definition for each faction it could be taken in (every merc was defined 7 times for every combination of upgrades it could take. On top of that every model that got a different upgrade depending on who the leader was also required duplicate definitions for each combination. Essentially, with the old tool, book 3 added maybe 5-6 models per faction but 80+ model definitions would have needed to be added to data file that it ran off of. With this new system I've set up, it builds the hire lists organically based on model characteristics such as station and types. As I said, I'm finishing up the tool as I type this, but I would like to know if anyone knows of a place where I can upload it as a website so that people can start testing it. This is currently what I want to get done before I start trying to get The Breach application back online. I'm also looking to add several new changes so that it is easier for me to push updates for model fixes, so while the app will be further down the road, rest assured it will be coming back.My Hero! -swoons- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parintachin Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 Do you need something special? I can offer you a subsection of my personal web site if you like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zFiend Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 It didn't workIt did work just fine, there was absolutely nothing wrong with it. It didn't have all the new stuff but that was a minor problem. Personally, I think they made the right call to remove it when they did.I could not disagree more with you. Personally, I think they made a very wrong call to remove it when they did with no alternative. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CrouchingMoose Posted October 6, 2015 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 Ok, so I have a place I've uploaded the updated tool to, however after spending a few hours trying to figure out why its not working, I've learned that they are currently experiencing technical difficulties with the server they have to change to fix my issue. Once they have it resolved and I've verified that it's loading correctly, I'll put up a link here for people to go test it. 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PraetorDragoon Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 Ok, so I have a place I've uploaded the updated tool to, however after spending a few hours trying to figure out why its not working, I've learned that they are currently experiencing technical difficulties with the server they have to change to fix my issue. Once they have it resolved and I've verified that it's loading correctly, I'll put up a link here for people to go test it.You are the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amanwing Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 YES! Link please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bumpasses Posted October 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 Ok, so I have a place I've uploaded the updated tool to, however after spending a few hours trying to figure out why its not working, I've learned that they are currently experiencing technical difficulties with the server they have to change to fix my issue. Once they have it resolved and I've verified that it's loading correctly, I'll put up a link here for people to go test it.Well done old boy!Thank you for your efforts and for obliging the community! -B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrouchingMoose Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 Here's the link.Updated Crew Creator betaAs a note, currently only Wave 1 & 2 Outcasts and Ten Thunders arsenal boxes have been added. I'll start adding more when I get home later.If anyone notices issues or lag of some kind, please let me know. Reducing these problems was the primary reason for rewriting the whole thing. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrella Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 Okie, taking Sewer King on Hamelin doesn't actually seem to add The Lost models as a hiring option is the first thing I just noticed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrouchingMoose Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 (edited) Okie, taking Sewer King on Hamelin doesn't actually seem to add The Lost models as a hiring option is the first thing I just noticed.Please bear in mind that all Lost models that aren't outcast are of one of the other 5 factions not added yet. As I said, I've only added models from 2 factions arsenal boxes, rather than trying to spider Web my way through all factions looking for models to fit each hiring rule. Rest assured, that those models that get hired for special rules should show up as I get through adding those factions. If you've noticed a ten thunders lost model that I didn't catch, please let me know. Edited October 6, 2015 by CrouchingMoose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Shut Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 When choosing a Resurrectionist crew Karina can't take the Faces of Oblivion upgrade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniello_s Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 Found a bug - Blood Viki can be chosen with every Outcast master in your crew creator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrouchingMoose Posted October 7, 2015 Report Share Posted October 7, 2015 Ok, just pushed a new update. The changes are:Karina now correctly can take The Faces of Oblivion upgrade as a ResurrectionistViktoria of Blood is now only hireable by Viktoria of AshesAdded Guild models & upgrades from Wave 1 & 2 Arsenal boxes. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Shut Posted October 7, 2015 Report Share Posted October 7, 2015 The Dead of Winter upgrade doesn't give Tara the option of hiring Death Marshalls 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Shut Posted October 7, 2015 Report Share Posted October 7, 2015 And when a Nothing Beast is hired into a Resurrectionist crew via Dead of Winter or Faces of Oblivion it can't take the Void Shield Upgrade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigoc Posted October 7, 2015 Report Share Posted October 7, 2015 CrouchingMoose, you are the Best!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khyodee Posted October 7, 2015 Report Share Posted October 7, 2015 CrouchingMoose here are most of the lists of models by faction with models added via upgrades. I hope it speeds up the process if you don't have this done already.https://app.box.com/s/69itpxufhn3cd8w9ahyfi1i1bpykkw7e 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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