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  1. Hi! I started painting Malifaux few weeks ago. To be honest this is my first thoughtful and mature experience. Love this guys, they are fun, dinamic and simply awesome! I also already painted Puppet Master Crew but unfortunately don't have appropriate photo camera right now. I'll realy appreciate all of your criticism and opinions because I want to stay in this field for a long time. Since I am painting everyday I declare this a weekly blog. I hope I'll be managing to post every thursday. Hail yourselves and be fun! This guy is so tough and scary
  2. So with GG17 being less kill oriented than I i'm used to dealing with, it has me eyeing Voices Pandora as a possible option. I would still need to watch out for Misery suicides with frame for murder, but paralyze seems like it would be a strong option regardless. I'm wondering if people think similarly, or if I'm off base with this one. If people agree, what else would you be grabbing to go with her in GG17? This post brought ot you by the Coalition of people who haven't wrapped their heads around gg17 yet
  3. Hello We are creating some thematic but at the same time fun and competitive crews. The goal is to create a large enough pool (20 models max) for players who will be using 1 master and need a crew well-rounded. I've included a list but your suggestion will be most welcome, please suggested to me if add, remove, or simply reduce the number of models needed! (all the models in production are good). Lilith Pool (mostly Nephilim crew not based specifically on growth) Cherub Barbaros Nekima Scion of the Black Blood BB Shaman Tuco Lelu Lilitu Angel Eyes Mature Nephilim 2 x Young Nephilim 3 x Tots 2 x Bloodwretches 3 x Waldgeist Pandora Pool (mostly Woe and Nightmare) Poltergeist Candy Widow Weaver Doppleganger Mr Tannen Lust Coppelius Iggy Teddy Baby Kade 3 x Insidious Madness 3 x Sorrows 3 x Alps Generic Pool (Shared) Primordial Magic Mysterious Emissary Mysterious Effigy Hooded Rider Note: the number of models is that one of the original boxes Many thanks in advance (The same post will be added to the various faction forums)
  4. Um.. I recently got Pandora I have Pandora. four Sorrows, Baby Kade, Candy, and Poltergeist. Upgrades I have: The Box Opens, Voices, Cry For Me, Best Behavior, That's.... All I got literally for her. I was given three other models but I won't or can't use em.
  5. Just got through another 2-day tournament in which Pandora proved to be off-the-chain. Played Pandora in 4 games and didn't lose a single model while only giving up 6 total VP. (The one game I went to Lilith, I dropped it 10-9 to the tournament winner in a nail-biter, but I wanted to see if I could hang without Pandora or Nekima. Apparently, almost ). Beyond just sharing that once again, Voices 'Dora with Nekima and the Neverborn Allstars seems like a NPE the more I play it, I thought I'd share a new trick I came up with in the tournament that was really, really nasty (added the tip to PMF): Incite + Mimic's Blessing/Perfect Camo is insane. I played a very good Guild player in a Reckoning / Show of Force game and brought this stuff: Nekima, Mimic's Blessing, Fears Given Form Lilitu, Mimic's Blessing Doppelganger, Retribution's Eye Incite Peacekeeper, force him to activate, and he has no viable targets what-so-ever. Didn't even need the crows/paralyze stuff. It worked so horribly well that I'm beginning to wonder if it isn't the right call for every game. Doppel has Manipulative while any other enforcers/henchmen bring Mimic's Blessing. The crew is so mobile that it can usually ensure enemies have to charge or shoot. Was just nuts how much work a single incite could do.
  6. Hi guys, I'm new to Pandora and I've got two questions about the model. 1- if a model gets killed by damage from the misery ability, does the kill count for VPs? Or is it like poison or burning that do not give VPs for kills? 2- I read the following stuff in the FAQs 105) Can Pandora take the Self Harm Action against a model without a z Attack? (Same question for Self Loathing and y Attacks).Yes. The Attack would simply be unable to deal damage. Self Harm selects a z Attack on the target and applies the damage, but does not require the target to have a z Attack. Attacks that require the target have a certain trait in order to target are generally worded, “Target model with a z Attack…” Self Harm is not worded in this way. Now, the question is very simple, if I take voices and target a model that doesn't have a shooting action with self harm, can I still paralyze it or not? Many thanks
  7. This pretty crew needs a home. I'd be glad to trade for an avatar or cash. I have Ramos, Rasputina, Sonia and the Viks Avatars. Please, message me.
  8. Hi, i had been playing for about a month and half now. Enjoying the game a lot. I play neverborn, but i feel like i had been missplaying some stuff, and i wanted to see if you guys can clear it for me. Pandora's Fading memory push: - I had been using it with self loathing and self harm. Is it a correct interpretation of the requirement as an oppossed Wp duel, or has to be pandora the one using her willpower for it work, therefore only working with incites and when "defending" from opponent's actions ? Ok just saw this and learned how misery really works... i feel so dirty now : Dreamer and hungering darkness "buried": - I had been using it as i can activate it after coming back with the (0) from Lord chompy bits or in Huggy's case, after i manage to unbury him with rising sun. I haven't found anywhere why i can't use it, since it says removed from play. But in dreamer's case is the one that had me thinking it can't work that way, since i could chain spawn lord chompys ad infinitum with tantrum. I checked the FAQs, the rulebook, etc, and i had been unable to find an answer. So the question is, does a model that has been activated before being buried, keep counting as activated after being unburied ? Cheers and thank you in advance for the responses. By the way, loving the game, cheers to the Wyrd's staff.
  9. Ten-Thunders player here. I recently went to a tournament were I did not win but managed to get the the Translucent Green Pandora Crew box as a mystery box in a raffle. I plan to keep it, mostly to build my model collection for Malifaux but also get some additional choices when I get Jakob Lynch. Mostly for this decision, I am trying to get the most for two factions and expand my collection as well. Now, the main question that I had: What works well with Pandora with what I got, and how does she usually play? With that, how well does Lynch play in Neverborn in comparison to his Ten-Thunders version and what are some of the differences that are highlighted between the two versions. And with this considered, what are some purchases that I can use to fill out these two Master for Neverborn and my crew choices in general? Thanks! Tanako Skyler
  10. Hey everyone, A friend and I are looking to get into Malifaux and we come from a Warmachines background, so we're familiar with war gaming but not Malifaux. My friend wants to get into Resurrectionists (Seamus first) and eventually go into Molly and Nico. So, I have a few questions: 1) Which Neverborn master would best handle Seamus, Molly, and Nico? 2) Between Lilith, Pandora and Collodi, which box is most complete out of the box and has the best synergy? 3) Out of the Neverborn masters, which would you say share the biggest pool of Neverborn models? 4) With the Queen box having been announced (omg I want that box so badly) who do you think she would best pair up with in a tournament setting? Thank you for the help
  11. Hi, we are Agent(s) of the Breach, a couple who are starting to play with Neverborn. We love to have a painting thread of every game we play because, not only It keeps us motivated, but also, it’s always interesting to have different points of view of the things you are working on and share ideas. So, please, feel free to comment or ask whatever you want, we’ll try to keep this updated At the moment, we’ve been focused on painting Zoraida’s box (testing colours and doing some brainstorming), so we don’t have much to show yet; only an (almost) finished Silurid. The idea is that the Silurid had to look as froggy as possibly, but with a spice of lizard in it. Like we said, it’s not finished yet; we want it to have a brown pattern in her back. Something like these: Usually, the base is the last that we (she, in this case) paint, but we wanted to see how it was going to look. It tries to be an autumn swampy zone. Seeing the photos, we have realized that it's a little dark, so we still have to work it a little more. Malifaux it’s a strange game; coming from Warhammer and Infinity, we are kinda used to paint “armys of”, but every single miniature here looks like a separate challenge. We’ll see how this work!
  12. After spending the last year as an avid Rezer player (with a quick toe dip into Levi Outcast), I just picked up the Pandora crew. I learned awhile ago that horror duels were a very big deal in the Rezer faction, and my lists have been slowly building for more and more paralyzing components. 'Cause if you can't beat 'em, paralyze 'em. Now, I find a master out of my usual faction that slows, paralyzes, similar but with different names, and just straight up controls the opponents' activations! Her base card had me worried at first, especially since her hench had essentially the same back of card, but then I read her upgrades... I haven't played her yet, but I'm excited to give the box crew and a Teddy a run. I'm not really into Neverborn as a whole (maybe Lynch), but I have a feeling I'm gonna enjoy Pandora and play variations of her often. Any tips or tricks that I won't be over-studying on pullmyfinger until game day? Yes, I'm that passive aggressive, annoying player that messes up your play strategy rather than try to just beat you down....
  13. Hi all, in first place, i introduce myself ! First thing, i appologize for my bad english, i understand this language very well but that's hard for me to talk/write !! i hope all my mistakes don't make you cry blood too much I know malifaux since few years but i just started to play for real at this game... and i definitly love it. I study the rules book since 2 weeks and finaly, i fix myself on this awsome faction neverborn. After that, i focus on 3 masters (pandora / lynch / collodi) and create alone, without experience, 3 lists. I know make a "generic" list on malifaux is not a good thing because that's change a lot with the primary and other scenarios but that's a way for me to know what miniature i buy in first and have some "pre-build" list for my first games. And today, i need you to have your opinion about my list, give me some answer about thing i don't understand and maybe, have some advices ^^ ! I try to explain for all my list what i want and the goal when i create it ! JAKOB LYNCHE That's probably the list that i like least... I have many models who have good synergy with "brillance characteristic" but i don't have many synergies with "ace in the hole" ... don't know if that's a problem or not. I have 2 variants and i don't know wich one take and if play only in brillance is a good way. What kind of model can i take to maximise the "ace in the hole" capacity ? First one : Second one : JAKOB LYNCHE : Woke up with a hand / the rising sun / wanna see a trick 5ss JAKOB LYNCHE : Woke up with a hand / the rising sun / wanna see a trick 5ss * Hungering darkness : Addict 1ss * Hungering darkness : Addict 1ss * Beckoner 7ss * Beckoner 7 ss * Beckoner 7ss * Beckoner 7 ss * Illuminated 7ss * Illumanited 7ss * Illuminated 7ss * Illuminated 7ss * Doppleganger 7ss * Doppleganger : Retribution Eyes 8ss * Hans 9ss * The depleated 4ss * The depleated 4ss And a little question about lynche, and to be more precise, about the hungering darkness. If i play hungry, later during the turn, he die, and after (again during the same turn) he come back in game (with rising sun upgrate), i can play him or he considerate like already play ? PANDORA For this one, i don't use Spirit models because ... i don't like them at all. Not in game, but just the visual !!! So i try to find an other way to generate many WP test without them !! Finaly, i finish with this list. I add a mysterious effigy for the last 4 points but i admit i don't know if it's a good choise or not... i don't find an other thing PANDORA : box opens / wings of darkness / Aether connection 4ss * Primordial magic 2ss * Mr Graves 9ss * Doppleganger : Retributions eye 8ss * Nekima 13ss * Johan 7ss * Mysterious Effigy 4ss *ADD 3 soulstones 3ss COLLODI For this one, i realy try to play with many effigy and puppet thing ... i guess that's normal !! Like for lynch, i have 2 lists and i don't know wich one take. The first one i take Aionus inside because .... i LOVE the visual of miniature and i want play this model !!! I put him with collodi because he add to my list many "control" and make that composition moreeeeee toxic with more trics !!! After, i don't know if it's the better choise, that's why i create a second list without him (because it cost realy expensive >< ) First one : Second one : COLLODI : fated / Strum the threads / Breathe life 3ss COLLODI : fated / Strum the threads / Breathe life 3ss * Stiched together 6ss * Stiched together 6ss * Stiched together 6ss * Stiched together 6ss * Doppleganger 7ss * Doppleganger 7ss * Aionus : Mimics Belssing 14ss * Vasilisa : a friend to talk 9ss * Arcane effigy 4ss * Arcane effigy 4ss * Brutal effigy 4ss * Brutal effigy 4ss * Shadow effigy 4ss * Shadow effigy 4ss * Mysterious effigy 4ss * ADD 2 soulstones 2ss ADD 3 soulstones 3ss So, thx to all person who take time to read me and help me a little bit to make my choise when i have 2 lists, or advice me for some synergies/changements...
  14. I'll start it off with Lucius, just to make the Guildies jealous. OURS. Other masters, henchmen, enforcers and minions to come. Lucius Wallpaper, with room for resizing
  15. Hi, I'm a fairly new Neverborn player and I have been rapidly buying into the game. I've played largely Lilith so far, since I really enjoy her versatility, but am also comfortable playing Pandora/Dreamer. That said, where applicable, I prefer to play Lilith because Beckon Malifaux is the shit. So, I have a GG2016 tournament coming up on the 2nd of April that will be using Turf War for all three rounds (deployment/schemes randomly determined). To me (and my limited experience) this would seem that Pandora would rock the hardest. I'm trying to decide which of the above three to play, and I know that generally you should play what you're most comfortable with, but I'm also looking at this tournament as more of a valuable learning experience than to WAAC - so if I lose, but learn a lot, I'm happy to kick it with a non-Lilith master. I've got a few generic starting lists here, and would love your advice on which you think could get me further (they only go to ~40 points since I figure I can tailor the last ~10 towards the particular schemes). Lilith: Lilith w/ Beckon Malifaux and On Wings of Darkness - The Master, with my standard loadout. I can't imagine playing Lilith without either of these. Cherub - Totem, could switch it for pMagic, but I want to try the pushing shenanigans. But who knows, Rush of Magic is pretty dandy. Black Blood Shaman - Just got my hand on them and want to try it out. I think the healing along with the Pustule could be super helpful, but unsure. Maybe a better use of 7 points elsewhere. Doppleganger - Honestly if all she did was cheat initiative, I'd still love her. Nekima w/ FGF - I've had some good experiences with her massive engagement range + FGF, and figure it would be nice alongside BBS. Tuco - Advance deployment, blast markers, pushes, prevents walking/charging... and given a good hand, allows me to shunt Nekima into the enemy's face with Tangle Shadows. Pandora: Pandora w/ AEther Connection and The Box Opens - The Master, figure this setup is better for when I know where the enemy's going to be. Doppleganger - I really love her. McTavish w/ Hexed Among You - Another 'I'm getting the model and want to try it out'-case, I also like the advance deployment on Waldgeists. But maybe a Bad Juju would do well, since the enemy's going to have to deal with the Waldgeists? Being able to shoot into melee and getting a bonus for nearby Swampfiends seems pretty sweet for Turf War, though. Sorrow - Aura could do work, but dunno. Maybe an Insidious instead? This is where my inexperience kicks in... Maybe a Mr. Graves to push McTavish up closer to the action? Waldgeist Waldgeist - Dat engagement range. Dreamer: Not too sure, since I prefer the above two, but if he has a clear advantage over them, I'm happy to throw down with him, too. Gotta learn sometime! So, yea. TLDR: upcoming 50ss tournament this weekend that uses the GG2016 scheme pool and Turf War for all 3 rounds. Fairly new player wondering if he should run Pandora because she seems sick at area control or Lilith because he's more comfortable playing her, and then any advice on lists is appreciated. Also the lists deliberately do not go up to 50ss, since the last few is to be tailored to the specific pool/deployment/faction. Thanks for any and all advice!
  16. I currently own four Masters and most of their related models: McMourning, Nicodem, Seamus, Yan Lo. I mostly play McMourning and sometimes Nicodem, haven't played Seamus outside of Crew Box games for years, and never tried Yan Lo. I don't have any trouble against most Factions with McMourning, but some heavily Wp-focuses Neverborn lists really give me the fits. They usually include the Widow Weaver to reduce my already mediocre Wp and one or more Teddies which they can easily move into my face (via pushes from Daydreams or Tangle Shadows), thus usually getting the alpha strike on me and tying up my forces so I can't deal with the Weaver who just makes my Wp lower and lower, until the Horror Duels and their sheer hitting power overwhelm me. In my experience, the general lack of Armor and low-ish Wp really plays towards their strenghts. I'm curious who and what would you take against those lists. I've tried Nicodem against a Pandora list, but she and her little friends have engaged me before I could get the summoning rolling and I've lost, but I feel he might obviously have a better chance against them than McMourning, however he does not seem perfect, either. My ideas so far are: 1. taking a Lawyer with McMourning if I'm against Neverborn for the +ve flip in Horror duels (still not enough imho) 2. Anna Lovelace to counter Lilith's Tangle Shadows and make delivering Teddies harder (they can still charge though) 3. Johan, although usually I get Paralyzed during my activation which he can't help with, but a Relic Hammer can come handy 4. Giving Seamus or Yan lo a try against those lists, or getting another Master. What are your suggestions?
  17. I haven't seen much talk specifically about the Maiden of Neverborn lately. I had my first game with her the other week, and well it went okay all things considered (8-10 loss to Kirai) I could tell I wasn't using her to her full potential, and unfortunately there is not a convenient Schemes and Stones podcast to catch me up on her like there was for Lilith. Therefore I'm reaching out, can you all teach me the tips and tricks of Pandora?
  18. From the album 50mm avatar base ideas

    50mm Pandora base
  19. Hello Im a New gamer of Malifaux and in one of my recents and first games I had a macht against la familia Ortega whit pandora and others neverborns. Well the thing is this : I casting the atack action Incite "(0) Incite (Wp 7M / Rst: Wp / Rg: 12): Target gains the following Condition until the start of its next Activation: "Mood Swing: When this model's controller has an opportunity to Activate a model, the opponent may choose for this model to Activate instead if it is available to Activate." against Santiago. After santiago want to use the tactical action Shurg Off "(0) Shrug Off: This model may discard a card to remove one Condition from this model" to remove Incite . The question is the next : Can I take the control of santiago before he use Shrug Off ? I say yes why the rules talk about an oportunity to activate no the activation as such. My rival say i can´t because for do the activation he has to spent a AP and Shurg off is an AP 0 . what is the correct interpretation dear elders of Malifaux ? thaks
  20. hi, I decided to start my ventures into the lovely strange world of malifaux with the dreamer (not the summoner version, for now). I know that people seem to discourage beginners to pick up the dreamer first but I decide with my guts and have to go with the story of a faction/master. It has always been like this for me. So the dreamer is set. I'll order the Widow and Teddy with him. But I'd like to get a second master and maybe one henchman or minion more, if it's strongly suggested. From what I read on the wiki and here I assume that Pandora would get along fine with the dreamer. What do you suggest and what should I get in addition? Lucius and Lynch are not an option by the way, someone else in the group has plans to pick them up. So it's really between the ladys: Pandora, Lilith or Zoraida.
  21. I have been lurking on A Wyrd Place now for about a year. My painting time is limited and split up among many different games. That being said Malifaux is my absolute favorite. I have aspirations at becoming a Henchmen in my area and am slowly working on getting my two crews done. I started with the Viks. Love the art on the box so much I started asking questions about the game at my local store. Bought the first box and have never looked back!
  22. So I'm starting my 2nd week of our campaign soon. I'm trying to decide what to get next. My list so far; Candy -run away home upgrade. Baby Kade Dopplaganger 2x Sarrow i have 6 script for my next purchase. I was thinking Teddy. Please help new player.
  23. Strategy: Reconnoitre Scheme Pool: Line in the sand Bodyguard Assassinate Spring the Trap Take Prisoner My Opponent usually plays either Rasputina or Collette and im having a lot of trouble facing down his crews. in a strat/scheme setup like this, he normally takes Raspy, gamin, Joss, Mech Rider and Support (effigy / arcane power totem) I any other strat/scheme that is more marker heavy he takes collette. what sorts of pandora crews would you run that cant stand up to the blast punishment, the summoning from mech rider, the power of joss to disrupt plans and the sheer power of the crew? what about Lynch? who is good for marker heavy schemes/ strats? i was thinking lucius
  24. Hello all! Again, us at Sprites and Dice have put together a Tactica, this time, going in-depth about Pandora and her skill set. Dana, our Neverborn player, loves using the 'bubble-bomb' method to destroy teams, but do you play her differently? Is there another trick to using her besides a massive dose of Misery? Feel free to check out our article, and tell us what you think! http://www.spritesanddice.com/2015/07/malifaux-tactics-in-that-place-there.html
  25. Falling into Madness – Pandora Experience I have seen beyond the bounds of infinity and drawn down daemons from the stars. . . . I have harnessed the shadows that stride from world to world to sow death and madness. . . . (“From Beyond”, 16 November 1920) So I have seen a few of these and figure I would give it a shot. This is a long thread covering my experience with Pandora as it happens. I will try to keep my own theory crafting to a minimum and stick to the EXP. I will try to put up something new for her every week to 2 week for a while depending on how many games I get in. About me: in 1st ED I played mostly Arcanists and started Neverborn as more of an afterthought but sense 2nd ED I have been playing Neverborn a lot more. I have played Dreamer, Lilith and Lynch recently and amount is in that order. My brother though replaced my old metal Pandora with the new plastic one as a gift, so now I finally have her totem. I perform combat based on the theory of strategic dismemberment: focus of firepower and field saturation. I tend to aim for 8 models in my force, right about the average number. Game Number: 1 Outcome: Victory 7 to 3 Deployment:flank Strategy: Claim Jump, Me 4, Enemy 2 Scheme Pool: Line in the Sand, Bodyguard, Curse Object, Distract, Plant Explosives I took: Bodyguard (teddy) 0 Curse Object 3 They took: Line in the Sand 1 Bodyguard (Bert) 0 My list: Pandora with Voices and Depression Poltergeist 2 Sarrows Teddy Coppelius Lilitu Stitched Together My enemy list: Som'er -Can o’ Beans, Encouragement, Pig Feed Hog whisperer Slop Hauler 2 Piglets War Pig Bert-Dirty Cheater Skeeter Models Thoughts Pandora: Pandora helped to kill Bert and then went on to curse object the slop hauler every round. She incited someone every round often to let her push to do self-loathing to Som'er before she went back to lock down the slop hauler, I think I used her so so throughout the game. Voices: I paralyzed a reactivated Gracie but I was really hoping to use if vs a shooting list so that I could see how much mileage I can get out of it. Depression: effectively never used it… to busy inciting and pushing myself around. Poltergeist: Died turn 2 after taking 3 activation to kill it. Not bad for a useful distraction. Sorrows: If I told you that I had them compleat Claim Jump you might think I am crazy, but because they can be placed in base with someone in 8 I just moved someone near a claim and jumped the sorrow to them then interacted. I paralyzed Bert once, and if that is not worth a high card I am not sure what is. Teddy: I will start by saying I LOVE THIS BEAR!! But this game I did not take him with Retribution’s eye and a near death Gracie eventually killed him Coppelius: He ran and claim and came back around to die…. Some days that happen. Lilitu: She did not lure much but she did tangle things up with her 4 inch engagement range which was useful. Stitched Together: For a basic foot trouper I do not think he brings much to Pandora but he is good to jump to and will take a bit to kill, in short he is Sorrow Approved. Game Number: 2 Deployment: Corners Outcome: Victory 8 to 1 Strategy: Reconnoiter 4, 0 Scheme Pool: Line in the Sand, Protect Territory, Assassinate, Take prisoner, Outflank I took: Protect Territory (announced) 3 Outflank (announced) 1 They took: Protect Territory (announced) 1 Outflank (announced) 0 My list: Pandora- Aether Connection, Box Open Poltergeist 2 Sarrows Candy – Depression Nekima – The True Mother, Rapid Growth Young Nephilim My enemy list: Brew Master- Drinking "Problem", Hold Their Hair Back Apprentice Fingers 3 Moon Shinobi Whiskey Golem- Angry Drunk Slop hauler Models Thoughts Pandora: This time I used her better, though she did a bit of combat this time and felt more like a bruiser than a controller at times, though I bet my enemy disagrees as there first few activations where all my choice. I incited a lot, it is very helpful to move across the field. My enemy also did not attack her a lot because of the terrifying and the wp 7. He chose that his best thing to do was bog me down and send everyone else to kill Nekima, then when I got free he could do nothing to respond to her. I also find that she is very soul stone efficient, other than Incite nothing she does has a trigger and most of the time she is capable enough to avoid minor minion’s attacks making the number of stones I am comfortable with low. I had 3-4 in both games and went to bed with most of them by the end. Aether Connection Assassinate was in the pool so even though I did not use many stones it was nice to have. Box Open Terror all 13 is nice, but I liked the attack I got from it more. Sure it is not vs WP but it also has triggers and lets her not rely on someone’s bad damage to kill them. When I was attacking the drunk gremlin ninja with their own attacks all I could think is that if they had armor I would be here all day. This upgrade also made killing the Apprentice easy, why does that model have a wp 7? Poltergeist: He killed the Whiskey Golem, no I am not joking. Now on the other side, giving Moon Shinobies a negative flip that becomes a positive flip will let them pass a lot of horror tests. Sorrows: It is official, I am crazy because these guys helped with misery but mostly they teleported around to get to where they could walk to do schemes. I think 2 sorrows may be to many right now. Candy: I was unimpressed, other than Sweet and Sour I do not think she has a lot going for her. Her skills are just too low at least in a Pandora crew, now she might be better in a non-Pandora crew like say Lucius or the Dreamer. The other option is invest in ways of lowering peoples will power to increase the effectiveness of her Ca 5. Depression: I tried it to give No Body Likes Me Once but it so low I realized I rather just have Pandora come over and Incite models to force everyone to go before a gremlin ninja with 3 wd left. I do not think I will take it on Candy again unless I plan on having her heal like a D and D cleric, not saying either cannot do other things. Nekima: She got paralysed and died 3rd turn but she was great. This was my enemy second time seeing her and he sent everything at her to the point where all but 3 models were with in sword range by the time she died. A total of 16 stones and my foe having no point for the strategy… WORTH IT! The True Mother: never came up Rapid Growth: never came up Young Nephilim: lets out a good amount of damage and does not need Pandora around to help with that. If you want more feel free to ask, I generally play Friday. I will also try to add more about those other two games.