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  1. Platov

    Your ideas how to play vs unstopable crew

    Yep, exacly. And 16", in my experience, is overkill most of time. So you push 8", and then just squeal Somer out the way after second attack.
  2. Platov

    Your ideas how to play vs unstopable crew

    If you trigger stampede, you can, actually, kill whisperer. Stampede tells us, that pig should charge closest model it is not engaged with. And that would be whisperer, cuz friendly models do not engage each other, as far as i remember. Correct me if im wrong.
  3. Platov

    Your ideas how to play vs unstopable crew

    Somer-bowling is 1 AP. You first push him with bayou and banjonista, and them charge him with pig, 2 attacks from charge push you up to 16", and then you still have 1 AP, to do 2 more charges within 1st activation. Normal+Stampede one. And Master in the enemy deploy, well, it doesn't matter if you table opponent. And if he counters pigs - you are done anyway. It's kinda all-in surprise-attack list. You either table opponent turn 1, and he surrenders, or you surrender yourself.
  4. Platov

    Your ideas how to play vs unstopable crew

    And what if Major takes saddle, and then pushes only one pig forward ~12", and then follows her, with the whisperer? 6+12+5+9(charge)=32, it's quite far. And the second pig charges Somer, bowles him over 2 times, pushing 16+as far, as Somer can get with Loudest squeal(about 8" more). So, second pig gets 6+8+16 + 9(charge) = 39" I mean, the way it explained in the first post is not the only way this roster can attack.
  5. Platov

    Your ideas how to play vs unstopable crew

    But in the end, such terrain is the exact reason, why turn 1 alpha works, and why such threads are born. Imo, Hog Whisperer is OP and will get cuddles quite soon, tho.
  6. Platov

    Your ideas how to play vs unstopable crew

    Well, that's why there were alot of diffirent OP-lists in our meta. But people find how to counter any OP list, in some time. Card-draw Viks, Hans+2trappers, Changeling Gunline. Those lists dominate the tournaments, people talk about open tables, and nothing changes in years. So, i guess, that's how it is here, in Moscow.
  7. Platov

    Your ideas how to play vs unstopable crew

    Ok, there you go. Tables from last week tournament in our meta.
  8. Platov

    Your ideas how to play vs unstopable crew

    I ment no offence, sorry if it souded like i'm accusing you. I'll take photos during game, and try to explain what was going on. About terrain, well, there is other Somer list, that utilizes flight(iron skeeters), with same card draw, but with Burt and Franc, and Trixie. Like, 4 activations of quite evil beaters in a row(Burt+Franc with fast and reckless, end of turn 1 + star on turn 2, with companion, and cheating initiative). It can, sometimes, table opponent turn 1-2, and with flight terrain doesn't matter much.
  9. Platov

    Your ideas how to play vs unstopable crew

    I'm not the author of this list. And, to tell the truth, i don't even know how vassal works, never tried it, and, to tell the truth, don't want to. I prefer real games, and I'm going to play one. Not to prove anything. I don't like the concept of "proving", or braging about how "I gonna 10-0" somebody. It's kinda presumptuously and dumb, no offence. I never told that this list in ubeateble, I only told that most of people here don't understand, that it's much scarier than it looks on paper, i've tested it for 10+ times(for Guide-writing purposes, not noobstomping), with diffirent players(again, not newbies), and i won all 10+ games. I want to test it against Levi, because i have lost 3 of 4 games against that opponent, so obviously, he is better then me, and now im curious if he will find a way to counter this list. You should really ask @looka, he's better player then me, and maybe he will agree to play vassal game.
  10. Platov

    Your ideas how to play vs unstopable crew

    I think, most players in this thread should, at least once, play against this roster, controlled by not-newbie gremlin player. It will give more understanding, than pointless talks. As for me -i'll find some time, and i'll ask our best Levi player to face this roster, and i'll see, if he can 10-0 me. Ofc, I will make a little report in this thread.
  11. Platov

    Your ideas how to play vs unstopable crew

    Well, yep, i guess you are right. Terrain is a huge problem in our meta. Tables a quite empty.
  12. Platov

    Your ideas how to play vs unstopable crew

    I guess, you are right, but as i said, it's hard to explain in theory. Peackeeper can be blocked by a model behind him, so no push. Or war pig can push him, and end up between 2 of your models, it's quite situational, so i think we shouldn't talk much about it. The point of the topic is not the stampede, but how to counter this roster. Preferebly, with Guild master.
  13. Platov

    Your ideas how to play vs unstopable crew

    Well, as was mentioned before, just yesterday i finished my Somer guide, and this list was included in it. And from now on, alot of players in 3 countries, who read my guides, will use it, so there will be quite a lot of this roster in our meta.
  14. Platov

    Your ideas how to play vs unstopable crew

    Well, yes, stampede is quite tricky thing to use. But then again, I usually use bowled over at 1 attack, and then stampede. And of course, you don't get total 120 damage output from this list, but around 40-70 is always possible, and that is quite alot. And, as first pig dives in, it pushes and kills enemy models, making in easier to stampede with second pig or second activation of first pig.
  15. Platov

    Your ideas how to play vs unstopable crew

    Yep, but you don't have to charge to BtB of peacekeeper. In straigt line, yes, but you just have to end charge movement in engage with peacekeeper. But it's really hard to talk about this theorethically. It really depends on exact positioning, i think.
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