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Its funny, I know I think 5 or even more people who deal 1 damage to target and push the target in any direction, and the most funniest thing, all of them have read the warning and no one have a questions how exactly it works. Because of so cool warnings I want to get into beta test of third edition.

a bit, MI 7 and flurry compensate it

You can cast combat effectiveness on Judge ))) You still need a lot of cards/tomes/masks/SS and a miracle to cast/hit everything successfully, however

as for me Judge is not a hitter at all, he hits not so good as I want, but he is pretty resilient especially after errata when I can give him LLC and he will be cost the same 9cc. I think he will returns to my crews when I would need a model to soak up some damage.

Hopkins is a really beast) You can easily deal 15+ damage from shooting if take debt and found a burning enemy.

When the Broke Promises book have been got to my hands, I was really excited of Cyborg Up. But when I've tried to play I've found It difficult to make a crew as competitive as with Harness on constructs exclusively. I see couple problems: 1) takes Pneumatic Upgrades and Field Mechanic isn't effective enough. It's very expansive and requires too many actions apply all ups, power loop. 2) as I found out at times when the Guild even didn't have a Emissary - Hoffman spend too many cards from a hand, so to attack is necessary as air. To fix first I decided to limite ups poll to next: Pneumatic Upgrades only and Harness and may be Arcanist Assets/OSA. To fix second exists couple ways: Arcanist Assets - you can take Mobile Toolkit that is extremely useful in general and can give to MI action. But I think it better to use it to give to damage to models like Thrall, Dr. Grimwell, Papa Loco, Abuela Ortega, Hoffman. Emissary's 0 cost up. It gives attack action for models with power loop. It's very strong ability because affect ANY attack action(sh, ca), with it you can use strong shooting crews based on models like Sidir, Papa Loco(especially if give him damage from Mobile Toolkit), Hopkins, Rider. But it require to spend master's AP to loop. Promises Up on Sidir/Queeg gives to MI and WP duels with and an up. So it works from the box with henchmen/enforces with ups or minions with cyborg up. So now I'm thinking how to combine this options the best. The most interesting I think Emissary + Papa + Mobile Toolkit and Queeg with Promises + Cisco to buff him + Minions(Thrall/Mounted Guard) + Mobile Toolkit.

Why the Emissary is far away from the Toolkit? The Emissary moves up to 18" on first, you buff PK at first turn and move 10" forward in LOS block, and on second you can move 10" more and then buff. So Its 21" buff range

No, If you lose the Peacekeeper and Emissary you will lose the game. While you have Em and Mobile toolkit you have + attack and + to damage so you can find a damage in Hoffman MI atack and EM SH atack

hmm, for example Hoffman 5 + Mechanical Attendant 2 + Emissary 10 + Peacekeeper 12 + Mobile Toolkit 3 + Watcher 4 + Steam Arachnid 4 + Guardian 7 + hound 3 = 50. It's 9 activations and Emissary would have ++ def stance.

It's sound interesting. What I like in Em+PK: you can give to PK to the damage flip, then bury him with puppet, and then taxi PK to 12-18"(that is 16"-22" danger rage for PK's flurry) and when PK would be unbury he will hit with to attack from Em aura and from mobile toolkit. It look like a bit harder alpha strike

I don't know how competitive it is but I prefer similar to @trikk version but based on Guild beatsticks. Hoffman 5 - Harness - Field Mechanic - Arcanist Assets Mechanical Attendant 2 Emissary 10 Peacekeeper 12 - Numb to the World Mobile Toolkit 3 Watcher 4 Steam Arachnid 4 Thats 40SS , On rest you can add second Arachnid, Guardian, Warden, riot breakers

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Felt like a correct version of Santiago

I like gunslingers, with debt + Jury they looks interesting. But I rare use mercs up, in 99% I take Guilds Founds to get extra CC, Misleading Headlines to outactivate opponent, and Delegation and think that changing any of those to mercs one is not reasonable. (And to be honest I even don know is it reasonable to change any of this to some up from Broken Promises)

So monster hunter doesn't deal +1 damage against masters? (that sounds stupidly, they deal +1 against modelst stronger than they are, but not against masters who definitely stronger) Does it mean that I can't note enemy master for vendetta?

Rotten Belle with lure

If you are outactivated by 2+ models the best scenario you can expect is to do one shot from every hunter, I think it's not enough to stop alpha

6 models without lure... If your opponent have 1-2 fast hard-hitters you will lose 1-2 Rogue Necromancy at first turn, in such crew it would be painfull

Chance to see df 7 in your opponent's crew not so high to spend so much CC for MI7

it's ignoring all kinds of damage reductions

Only new what cyborgs can give to constructs - it's SH 7. I don't think it is a great advantage, cool but not great. And Rostislav is right, Power loop condition doesn't work properly on cyborgs. So, now I'm thinking about how to play without Power loop . Creates 2-3 cyborgs and spend all AP's to Machine Puppet. Use Power loop only on one model from Hoffman's ability to buff this stats.

I've tried Cyborg Sidir with promises + Ryle + Guardian. It look interesting Ryle with Sh 7 with inbuild or MI 7 with under promises but very expensive and slow. You needs two 2CC ups (for Cyborg and for Modifications) plus you need to take (1)AP to loop all them. P.S. promises + new hofman's jump looks very interesting, his mi attack have good damage thanks to power loop and promises it can have MI 7 with . It looks pretty tough

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Flurry targets nobody, It just gives ability to do 3 attacks to single model. Attacks targets...