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Thanks very much for the confirmation

Since the wording of flaming demise is 'after this model is killed' and academic zeal is 'after this model kills an enemy model', I THINK that they're simultaneous, so the model with academic zeal being active means the summon occurs prior to flaming demise and so both it and the new summon would be damaged. This doesn't make sense to me intuitively and I've only found 2E or only partly similar posts that don't give me confirmation.

I was thinking the same thing. They both have a Gatling gun after all

@Gnomezilla I don't own investigators, queeg or the emissary unfortunately but those all sound like interesting ideas. I have wanted to try that on Lucius (I assume you're talking about the 'remove friendly scheme markers to get an equal number of attack actions' upgrade?). The main comment from my opponent was that I was spending 18pts of models on turns one and two just moving the wagon. I can't fault him but although it wasn't planned, I did find that the Thralls' cast was very useful for pushing enemies out of the way of the wagon if I wouldnt otherwise be able to move it. Also Guild Intelligence was invaluable.

The riflemen did the bulk of their work turn 1 and 2 and were only just in range turn 1. They were centre back just past deployment while Misaki was attempting to stop my wagon on a flank probably 17 inches and impassable terrain away. In retrospect she probably should have rushed them but at the time the wagon is the only thing he can already see me getting VP from so I guess that was prioritized. The blast did mow them all down in turns 3 and 4 very easily so the game probably would have gone differently if he'd prioritised them from the start. That in mind, the Thralls would have had free reign after getting the wagon to centre turn 2 and controlled his backline. As I said, first game with Lucius so I'm not sure what would have happened if my opponent had taken a different route.

That is almost exactly how I'm hoping to do mine! Sonnia's red is her hair. all the fire will be teal. Her overcoat will be an almost black blue. Lucius coat will be red etc. The main issue is the guardsmen and stalkers and other minions' primary clothing colour. I've got the stalkers with gross green/grey rags but dont want that colour for the soldier themed models. (Sorry for derailing everyone else.)

Thanks it was Anna Lovelace! I plan to get a hunter because I like all of Hoffman's box. But I currently own 20 something guild models and not a single one is finished. So I'm not allowing myself to buy more until I've painted more. It's choosing the colour schemes so that everything fits in (in some way) that stress me out

first game with Lucius against Misaki Flank deployment, Supply Wagon, Guarded Treasure*, Dig their graves, inescapable trap, Show of force, Vendetta* + Deep pockets (2) 3 Guild Riflemen (15) Captain Dashel (8) 2 guild guard (6) 2 Witchling Thralls (18) I took vendetta on a rifleman against a medium based model wearing a big metal dress who I shamefully can't recall anything else about. Got the kill first turn after activating all my other rifleman first to whittle her down. Guarded Treasure was difficult given that I only took two non-minions (and I won't take it again when I get this pool in an upcoming tournament) because I felt the list was very solid. I won in the end but was at an advantage from the get go after killing my vendetta target, as my opponent wasn't expecting that level of damage output turn one and was already out activated. In the end, Dashel giving Misaki Slow in melee and just avoiding death with a damage prevention probably made the difference between a loss and a win (or at least a draw) as this meant I scored guarded treasure and my opponent couldn't push the wagon back over the centre line with Misaki slow. I'm not sure exactly what I would change about this list as I don't own any large based models to push the wagon better than the thralls could. Perhaps dropping some guard/riflemen for the scribe? Another non-minion? Another upgrade for Lucius too perhaps.

The freehand on the thralls is very impressive. I've been pondering adding some runes to my Thralls as well. Do you have any tips after doing these guys?

50SS Guild Strategy: headhunter Available Schemes: claim jump, dig their graves, leave your mark, undercover entourage, a quick murder My list (keeping in mind I have a limited selection of models) Sonnia + Cherufe's Imprint, Reincarnation Witchling Handler Witchling Stalker x 2 Witchling Thrall Dashel + arrest him Guild Rifleman x 2 A Quick Murder target was the Hooded Rider

If this thread hadn't been necro'd I'd have no idea there were official Wyrd tokens. I just checked and searches for 'tokens' or 'customeeple' turn up nothing on the web store. Is there a reason for this? It doesn't seem like anyone but a long-term foru-goer would even know about these.

congrats and nice work. I suppose it would be in Wyrd's interest to restrict the availability of event prizes so perhaps wanting this for general release is unrealistic.

Not available to anyone who doesn't already have him as far as I know.

My vote's for alternatives to models that only appear in large boxes or have no alt sculpts. Fransisco, watchers, a hunter etc.

I briefly checked the forum rules and didn't see anything prohibiting thread resurrection. Anyway, I read a few pages of this thread. So many great criticisms and praise that I identified with but also a lot of diverse predictions for the ongoing story and lore. Looking back to six years ago, do people find themselves that the lore has met or perhaps defied their expectations? Are there particular criticisms that you still have, or perhaps some that have been addressed (such as bringing back the chronicles)?