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I'm pretty sad that you can't use promising whisper to obey an enemy model into attacking you, and make them fail the terrifying check now. That being said, I feel like she's still pretty good, and there's some obvious utility to having an obey regardless, especially in a faction that lacks that sort of manipulation. I'm just not sure if she's as conclusively worth 10 points as she was before. Thoughts?

Related to this, has anyone heard anything regarding when we might expect the crew builder to be updated with the wave 2 stuff?

Also, regarding the Howling Wolf Tattoo, you can only make a minion a sister with that. So it works on Ronin, but not on Taelor since she's a henchman.

It hasn't been errata'd anywhere to my knowledge.

Anything more than two seems like an awfully significant points investment for a crew that's got better things to spend it on. I've been playing the Viks a lot, and desperate mercs are great to summon the avatar, or to fill out a couple more SS in the hiring pool that weren't going anywhere anyway. But in something like a 35 SS encounter where you're only going to hire 27 SS of models, spending near to a quarter of that on throwaways like the mercs (albeit with their virtues) is dubious.

Not to mention how awesome Von Schill's anti-construct pulse is against a Hoffman crew. And if you're playing against Ressers, don't forget that Von Schill has a lot of undead hate in addition to Construct hate. I played a game today where Von Schill wrecked a Pale Rider on account of ignoring Armor, ignoring Hard to Wound, and a positive damage flip with a brutal trigger.

The Freikkorps Specialist can also force morale checks.

Wow. I must be completely blind. Thanks.

Thanks. Now that you mention it, I seem to recall seeing that somewhere. But I can't recall where, it's not in the 1.5 rulebook?

For the purposes of counting SS cost in Slaughter: -Does each Viktoria model count as 10, adding up to 20? -Does each Viktoria model count as 5, adding up to 10? -Does the opposing player just need to kill one Viktoria to get the full 10? -Does the opposing player need to kill both Viktorias to get any SS count? Thanks. Sorry if this has been answered somewhere obvious.

Can Vanessa cast Sisters in Need twice on the Viks to give them two different buffs? For instance both Hard to Kill and Hard to Wound. My understanding is that the same abilities don't stack, but can two separate abilities from the same spell stack? I played a game today where that's how we played it after browsing the rulebook, but I just want to check if we were correct.

Thanks. I'm leaning heavily towards the Viktorias to start. I'll probably eschew their starter box and just pick them up individually, plus the Ronin blister, Vanessa, perhaps the Von Schell starter and some stuff like Convict Gunslinger, Desperate Mercenary, and Jack Daw to toss in and out for flavor.

I've been going pretty regularly to Titan games in Cockeysville for Warmahordes, and that's sparked my Malifaux interest. I played through a demo game on Monday with a henchman and picked up the 1.5 book. I'll probably buy models next week. Monday nights are Malifaux nights there and it seems like there are quite a few players.

I'm just starting Malifaux and I'm seriously considering going with the Viktorias as my first master. I've noticed no shortage of threads regarding them, their crew builds, and their playstyles but I've seen no mention of their Avatar one way or the other. Is it so maligned that it's not even worth mentioning to exclude, or is it applicable for some scenarios/matchups, etc? I understand that since the Viks are so SS cache reliant that the additional cost is prohibitive, but I'm looking for insight into the Avatars playability on the table. The model is really cool, so I'd love to pick it up. But if it's not something I'm likely to get much use out of then there are other purchases higher in my priority list.

I apologize if this is answered somewhere that I haven't noticed, and since it's not a rules question per se I figured this was the appropriate place for it... Is the 1.5 Rulebook more current than the Rules download? Malifaux.com states the Rules manual download as being the most current but the file name is MalifauxRulesManual2011 whereas the publishing date on the 1.5 Rulebook is January 2013. I understand that there will likely be newer errata or that it will be forthcoming, but since I have the 1.5 Rulebook I'm wondering if there's any need to look at the downloadable manual at all or if I can just refer to any future errata for changes. Thanks