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the viks where my first master and prob still my best. the crew i usually run now (after years of experimenting) is: 35 ss Viks 4ss cache Von Schill Ronin x 3 Misaki i never have trouble with von schill dying cuz nothing catches him! if need be i will drop some ronin to add in taelor or a librarian etc, depends on my opponents crew and the strats. have had phenomenal success with this list, only 1 loss against a very experienced player running Dora.

ah, i see the clarification. as it played out, colette swapped, then mei pushed into contact, chasing her some ridiculous distance. i smell shenanigans. thank you both.

it's more a question of the timing of the two events than a clarification on the trigger. but am i to assume that if triggers go off before the inherent effects of the weapon, that mei would push into base contact with the poor sacrificial showgirl, and colette would escape with a laugh? i read the timing as colette disapearing first, as her trigger stated it occurs when attacked, whilst mei's weapon ability occurs when she hits. this is the point i want clarified - am i correct?

whilst i know the threads's moved on, i gotta defend rasputina by saying that snow storm actually makes her super fast, as does her avatar. she's straight forward and easy to learn, and if you want to blow your opponent to kingdom come from across the board (plus anyone in their general vincinity) then she's your girl. on the topic of ramos, he really needs those scrap counters, so taking non-construct minions can be quite a hinderence. kaeris or rusty alice can work well, but they will both be so many SS that dont drop counters to become spiders.

it would seem that way, as the model still took a non-pass/walk action, regardless of the models controller. harmless and FtS doesnt state anything about the models controller, so it does seem like obey would be an easy way to destroy the protection they offfer.

so, an interesting question arose recently in a game between colette and mei feng. Mei attacked colette with her jackhammer kick, which states "after hitting defender with this weapon, place this model in contact touching the defenders base". however, Colette also got her A Blinding Flash trigger, which is worded as "the model that attacked this model receives slow. switch this model and one other friendly showgirl within 18" " now, besides the general recognition that colette's trigger is awesome, this caused a fairly heated discussion about the timing of each of these actions - colette's swap and mei's placement. colette lost the duel, so mei hits her. this doesnt stop colette from disappearing though, as her trigger does not specify 'after being hit/missed'. so, does mei push into contact as her weapon states (not a trigger, but an inherent ability of her weapon) and then the trigger activates and colette swaps, or, as my opponent argued, do triggers imediately take effect and colette swaps, then the weapon effects occur and mei pushes into contact, effectively chasing her 18" across impassible terrain? interesting dilemma, is there a ruling somewhere about the timing of effects on weapons vs triggers?