Bahoola

Darn! Missed that part

I have a different take on it. Just bare with me for a second and I will explain my train of thoughts. For reference Collodis “My Bidding: After damaging target non-Leader, the target immediately performs a (1) Action chosen and controlled by this model's controller. This Action may not declare Triggers.” (p51 small book). If the model is reduced to 0 Wounds it is immediately removed from the game as killed. So Collodi attacks Killjoy with Pull the Strings. Declares one trigger (step 4) and determine success (step 5). The damage dealt to Killjoy reduces him to 0 wounds. And now we have two things happening at the same time. The “call out-box” on page 51 for general timings only refers to triggers and abilities, and I would say that being reduced to 0wd qualify as nether. So the controlling player my not chose in witch order this is resolved. So as I see it, the only way to figure this timeline out is to check witch rule is more specific and let that one overrule the other one. They bother happen “immediately” so no help their, but I would rule that “reduced to 0 wounds” is way more specific then “after damaging”. So with that said, Killjoy is removed from the game as killed before Collodis trigger can happen.

So I finely pulled my thumb out from my ass to answer. It has been a hectic month to keep it short, and I wouldn’t really bothered answering if you didn’t think this where going to be an interesting one Omenbringer. @ Godlyness, that call out box made it all very clear, so thank you for pointing that out. @ Egoon, 2/4/8 cheatable damage seemed a bit too strong with out fate modifiers, that is how ever how we unfortunately played it. Since neither off us cud find why it should be ruled as an opposed duel. Don’t ask! Guess we both flipped black jokers on that one But the ting with the piglets set off and bound by law all of us down at the club are in consensus that what it really says contradicts how we think it’s supposed to be played. I think the term is Raw Vs. Rai, correct me if I’m wrong. First sentence under Declare Action and Spend AP (p35 small book) The player begins an Action by announcing to her opponent what Action the model is taking. And since Arrest id phrased “This model must discard a card to take a Walk or Charge action” You have to discard a card before announcing what you are up to. Witch creates a loophole since no AP is being spent. In shot, I’m forced to charge but I can’t announce that since I don’t have the card to discard. And to break that loophole we must answer the question “Witch rule is more specific” and let that rule over rule the other one. So we just House Ruled it. No are not considered taking an action until you have spent AP for it.

Could I get added? Thanks. Player name:Bahoola (bahoola84@gmail.com) Contry: Sweden City: Kalmar Store: Narrens Spel och Tillbehör http://www.narrenspel.se/

A little fast side-track here. Can you be reduced to blow 0 wounds, have they changed that from 1,5? Recalling the Slow to die healing on shilling and librarian.

Don't know if this helps you out. To me the wording 'stil' in play only implicate that the model has to be their. Meaning, not dead. Otherwise it's still in play.

Two more questions after a gaming some evenings ago. (1) Bound by Law (Ca 5 / TN: 13 / Rst: Wp / Rg: 12): Target suffers 2 damage. Undead targets suffer 2/4/8 damage instead. Target gains the following Condition until the end of the turn: “Arrest: This model must discard a card to take a Walk or Charge action.” If you attack an Undead model do you treat the attack as an opposed duel. Check for difference and calculate Fate modifiers. Or do you just Flip a card and deal 2/4/8 cheatable damage? Second question. I’m sure of that it must be a thread on this some where, but my computer skills can’t find it. “ Stampede: After damaging, this model suffers 1 damage and must Charge the closest legal target which it is not engaged with. This Charge may be made while engaged. This model may only declare this trigger once per activation.” A Piglet is forced to pig charge The Judge and on its first attack it triggers Stampede. The next target, Exorcist is standing a little less then 3” away from Judge. So the piglet can be placed so both Judge and Exorcist is within 1” from the stampeding piglet. Two attacks are made ageist Exorcist. Can the piglet still perform its last ML action against The Judge witch it resaved from its first charge action? My take on it is NO. The two ML actions you are allowed to take are a part of the charge action. So when you are forced to perform another action the first action ends. Edited by Bahoola, Today, 01:01 AM. Ha! That tile actually formed another question for me. Let’s say that the piglet has the Arrest condition and activates more then 2” away from a gremlin and I don’t have anny cards in my hand. Witch rule is more specific? Set'er Off: When this model declares an action if it is not engaged or within 2" of a friendly Gremlin, it must take a Charge action if there is a legal target available. Or “Arrest: This model must discard a card to take a Walk or Charge action.”

Very nice markers indeed!

Oh, feels cheesy, and makes me terrified of Obey!

In general, can you commit suicide with the model you are currently controlling model? And if I do, is it considered as Killed? If I have 5 or fewer wounds remaining on Pere, can I use Oopsie to kill my self? And, can I place a blast marker witch I generated throw a attack on my own model?

I think I might have confused 1,5 with ME2 again I remember that in 1,5 you couldn’t commit suicide with an action. Like a rat Using “(0) Writhing Mass: This model suffers 1 Wd...” with only one wound remaining. But after a brief research I can’t find any thing that says that you can’t do that, even though my guts say no. Let’s say that I want to cast “(1) Oopsie! (Ca 4 / TN: 10tomb): All models in pulse 6" must pass a TN 13 Df duel or suffer 5 damage, then this model suffers 5 damage.” twice to kill my self and meat the criteria of “Explosive Demise 4: All models within pulse 2" suffers 4 damage when this model is killed” Is that a legal move? Or, let’s say I cast it once and after that attacks with burning stick and place one if the blast markers over my own model and kills it to get Explosive Demise of. Is that a legal move?

Oh, silly me

Quick question. I’ve read on the forum that the Executioner can turn other models to undeads and synergy with the Jude. Can any one tell me how this is done?

You miss my point. And it's a easy one to miss since I’m referring to how Swinedash (pigcharge) where phrased in ME1,5. Back then it said “charges nearest none-pig model” now it says “if there is a legal target available”. So if your model where the closer one you cud just put a pig in the way, screening your model and the pigcharge where off somewhere ells. Now the piglet just charges the other pig instead. But I acutely took my time to read throw all the new ME2 wave2 cards more then one time, since information do not stick in my brain. Seriously, I need a note when im going to the store to buy 3 things! Back to track now. If you add Old Major to your tactics you can still pull this move off, thanks to “An Eye on the Young'uns: Other friendly Pigs in play do not consider friendly Pigs as legal targets for a Charge Action.” Hop I’m making sense here, its way pass bed time for me now.

Correct me if in wrong, but aren't most (if not al) new crewboxes around 40ss with upgrades?